MoMA PS1: new name, new courtyard installation, old fight with LIC’s CB2
Ok. There’s a lot going on with Long Island City’s favorite local MoMA outpost. First of all, they’ve rebranded. Slightly. what was P.S.1. MoMA is now MoMA PS1. For our purposes, and out of respect for the name change, we will now forever refer to what was P.S.1., as PS1. Hope that doesn’t confuse anyone.
Secondly, the WarmUp 2010 parties are imminent, and this year’s courtyard installation is highly interactive and interesting! We’ve been making fun of it (good fun, of course) due to the scandalous name ‘Pole Dancing‘, however now that we’ve learned the reason behind it, we’re impressed! Watch the WSJ produced video, but before you do…
PS1 is still having a tiff with CB2 over the outside of PS1′s courtyard wall. The video both describes the new courtyard installation (awesome!, sorry we unabashedly love this idea, haters take to the comments), and also the frustrations of CB2 with PS1′s Cold Wall.
In a nutshell, CB2 feels the exterior of the wall is uninviting and a big FU to the surrounding community. Not to mention it was built by tax dollars. PS1 proposed installing small LED lights into the wall, which was rejected and dubbed ‘Twinkle Twinkle Little Wall’ by CB2′s Chairman. Twinkle-y wall or not, liQcity will definitely be chronicling the pole dancing at PS1 this summer. See you there, strippers.
Why should they have to? What qualifies Joe Conley to say what is and is not art. The wall was put up for an artistic effect. I happen to like the starkness of it. If the CB does not get the concept then so be it, but now we have to listen to their views on what is and is not art. Why stop there? Can the CB decide what the installations inside the museum are as well? It not like the wall exists to lock out the community. They have installation in the courtyard all the time. How would you prevent people from interfering with them after hours?
That wall sucks, pure and simple. Makes it look like a prison. Cut some windows in it or something. That LED really isn’t the answer.
I love that wall and the light installation i think is brilliant!!!
It is a prison: a prison of privileged presumption.
Those inside “get it” by virtue of their position within the castle keep.
I dunno… do we really need to be that offended by the wall? And I don’t hate the twinkle little wall idea either. It’s nice and minimal. Could be elegant. Maybe they could throw in a couple small cutouts to compromise, though. It would be nice to look inside and see what’s going on. It is a public sponsored art space, not a private home. That part I do agree with, though I’ve never felt offended or excluded by the wall. And LIC residents can always go for free and check it out that way.
I love PS1 and the wall.
There are many walls in LIC that are much uglier than that.
seems very strange that cb2 is offended by the clean moma wall, and isn’t offended by the decrepit zipper building on 48th, or the citilights scaffolding that has been there for years. why not get offended by the state of 47th ave & it’s sidewalk which has craters the size of small cars?
I like you, #9.
Right, #9. What happened to the zipper building on 48th?????
Any update?
I see both sides of this debate. The wall is stark. But it’s not as offensive as if it were in the middle of a bunch of single-family houses. It’s just part of the urban fabric. Plus, if there were problems with the wall’s design, why weren’t they addressed by the CB prior to construction? Take it on the chin, haters. LEDs actually are a fun solution.
I like the wall a lot. I just walked past it today and was admiring it, really love its starkness. And there are cutouts in it already. It’s really nicely done, and maintained.
Joe Conley does not represent me when he says the community is against this. I live in this community and I love the wall.
14, you “love the wall”? Interesting, because I love the equally charming asphalt streets, vinyl siding and chain-link fencing found in the neighborhood. And the sewer grates — I LOVE the sewer grates!
#9 brings up a good point that I think should be discussed on this site more often. WHY HAS THE CITILIGHTS BUILDING HAD SCAFFOLDING ON IT FOR SO MANY YEARS? This needs to be taken down. Imagine what people would say if any of the new developments hadn’t taken down their scaffolding.
Also, the PS1 wall already has window slits in it cut at an angle. This guy probably hasn’t bothered to actually walk past…
#15 you cracked me up. I don’t understand the ‘love’ for this wall either. I don’t quite get the coordinated ‘hate’ either, but I liked the LED lights idea, I wish they would let them do that.
The Truth.
1. I walked passed this wall and the first thing that came to my mind was… This wall along with the video cameras and the height of the wall was a security measure for whatever was on the other side. Then I wanted to know what was on the side. As I went around the building all the doors was locked except this one door that had a security guard at the entrance. The place just was not inviting at all (especially when calling itself a Museum) and I’ve lived here in Queens for 50 years. Would I go back? Not without an invitation.
2. If I was a tourist would I take a picture of this concrete slab as Art. No.
3. Yet no one really has the right to tell another person what is art. As the old saying goes Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
4. The problem here is creating this isolating effect and trying to say were here for the public. It’s like saying this is our car but you never get to drive it.
5. Before you give feed back on this Great Wall of LIC you must visit it and come back and tell us how long you actually how long you stood in front of this Wall and admired its creativity.
SOLUTION: As a public place be more considerate of the public. Parks are open to the Public. Museum of Natual History is Open to the Public, Times Square is Open to the Public – Even the Statue of Liberty is Open to the Public.
PS1 is open 2 the PUBLIC, so what’s all the fuss.
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Why can’t they just put a mural on the outside of the wall? It’s an art museum for C’s sake. I don’t understand that. It would solve the whole problem.