Alternate side parking coming to Hunters Point? More Vernon meters?

5th Street parking to vanish like this view? -Long Island City
Ok Hunters Pointers, here’s your chance to get involved some good ol’ fashioned community politics (if you dare). On the table, the very controversial issue of neighborhood parking, specifically in the Vernon Jackson zone on Vernon, and also 11th Street. One possibility is increased metered parking on side streets near Vernon. (Hopefully also the DOT will address the dangerous intersection at Pulaski & Jackson Ave.) And parking also might be temporarily (permanently?) removed along the entire stretch of 5th street.
According to many but confirmed by none, is the rumor that alternate side parking is a done deal for Hunters Point, it’s just a matter of time. And the rationale is that, combined with increased metered parking, it will help to reduce non-resident commuter parking, which will help Long Island City businesses grow their customer base.
Opposing arguments maintain that resident permit parking is mysteriously being denied by DOT in order to justify alternate side parking, (perhaps because it generates greater revenue?) though it would more effectively reduce long term commuter parking, and also spare Long Island City residents a great nuisance while simultaneously boosting business traffic.
Aah the delicate balance of community & city interests. Indeed.
So if you want to stick your toe in those waters, there’s a CB2 hearing tonight at Cassino’s Restaurant at 6:30pm to discuss the future of parking in Hunters Point, and other juicy community topics.
CORRECTION:
Ooops. Tonight’s meeting is not a public hearing but a committee meeting. It is public, but public opinion is not going to be solicited. It’s a meeting where you can come and listen to the debate of the committee members. There will be public hearings announced in the short-term future. liQcity apologizes for the error. No juicy topics tonight. But a couple of rumors are about to get cleared up from Chairman Joe Conley:
Tonight there is a CB 2 , transportation and traffic subcommittee meeting to explore ideas and discuss recommendation that will be sent to Council Speaker Quinn and DOT in June, after a community public hearing. Tonight’s meeting is part of a series of meetings in response to a walking tour with Speaker Quinn and the DOT Commissioner. The meetings will be to discuss pedestrian safety, traffic flow, parking regulations and public transportation.
Tonight we will have a presentation by DOT on recommendation to improve pedestrian crossings and vehicle traffic at Jackson Avenue and 11th Street. Nothing has been decided. Alternate side of the street parking is NOT a “done deal”. It is one of many recommendations that are being discussed that may or may not be included in recommendations to Speaker Quinn and DOT.
Totally. Thanks for posting about the meeting.
Agree with residential permits
Several of us sat at round table work groups with DOT over the past year and without a doubt the overall consensus was that residential parking permits were the way to go. Apparently this was on the table when congestion pricing loomed as a possibility. But we have now been told that “Albany” won’t go for permits – no way, no how. A bit disappointing because I have been under the mistaken impression that our legislature is supposed to represent the people – not the DOT, not the City government, etc.
On a related note, several of us brought up municipal parking garages. Most of these properties have been sold off to private interests over the years. We were given the terse answer that “the City does not want to be in the business of parking garages”. I keep wondering who “the City” might be. I also mistakenly thought it was us.
Boohoohoo. This is a city. Get rid of your car and get a bicycle.
I agree with 5. Who says you are entitled to a parking spot in NYC? If the idiot developers of the towers just provided sufficient parking in their buildings, the rest of the people on the side streets wouldn’t have to suffer.
The towers have definitely provided sufficient parking. Half of the parking in the towers are empty. The residents aren’t parking there because they don’t want to pay. It’s pretty simple. Avalon parking is $195/mo, which isn’t crazy.
There should be mandatory parking in the tower garages for people who live there. If they can afford to pay for a condo, they can pay a couple of hundred bucks a month to park their stupid cars. Problem solved.
There’s plenty of parking in the towers! Why do you think 5th Street looks so bad by Avalon and Rockrose, those huge parking structures block out any sky.
Get rid of parking on 5th, I’d be in for that!
What is with all the people with cars? Why do you need a car in NYC? Isn’t not driving one of the main points of living here?
I hope the city implements whatever parking policy makes it most difficult for people to own one. Cars are bad for America. Move to the suburbs.
10, the car owners have moved to the ‘burbs. And they drive their cars to LIC, park on our streets, and then take the subway to work. That’s why a residential parking permit is the best solution.
6 & 10, when we start to see some basic affordable shops here instead of sushi bars and high end booze then there will be less need for a vehicle. I’m not going to do my weekly food shopping at the Food Cellar. I’m not going to buy needed hardware and house keeping supplies at Duane Reade.
Of course being on a bike is a great idea but it doesn’t cover all needs all the time. And my guess is that you certainly use them from time to time.
The main problem with parking is that commuters, and out of towners, and limo repair companies have grabbed a very large percentage of space they really are not entitled to or that is that they are less entitled to.
Ever think people have friends and relatives all over the area and need cars to visit them?!?
We all don’t just hang out in basements drinking Pabst and listening to indy music with our 3 roommates and fat girlfriends every weekend.
Oh great. This is another one that will disintegrate into us versus them. Apparently there are stupid weenies on all sides of every argument.
According to CB2 it is not a hearing but a committee meeting that is not open to the public. I still plan to stop by just in case.
This is what happens when you have too many people all getting in each other’s business. There’s no respect for anyone’s personal space in LIC anymore — from parking wherever the hell you like, to yelling at the top of your lungs on quiet streets after leaving Water Taxi Beach, to behaving like an inconsiderate ass by letting your dog crap wherever it wants. These are all symptoms of the breakdown of civility and decency we are witnessing. Why should some boob investment analyst from Nassau County feel completely entitled to park his Expedition right in front of my house and vanish for a week at a time? Can you imagine what would happen if I drove my crappy car and left it in front of his house?
#14 I just ignore those guys and focus on the good stuff.
I like the zip-car concept. #12 is right. Sometimes in LIC you do need a car for some basic things. Especially when the 7 train is out in the freezing cold.
Am I the only person who finds it amazing that in a neighborhood that has seen millions upon millions in investment and thousands of new high income residents we still can’t just walk to a normal well-stocked supermarket? There’s something seriously wrong if you must own a car in a NYC neighborhood just to buy groceries or get stuff from a hardware store.
On the issue of parking there are several facets:1) There is a general lack of parking for residents. This is not a position that I do not sympathize with, because as others have pointed out the hideous garages that the community forces every developers to include are nowhere near being full. This can be explained by two things i) why pay for something that you can get for free; ii) the occupants of the high rises are more likely to have embraced city living concept and go sans cars. As a city we should be encouraging more people to do that, so I would be in favor of tougher parking rules. As others have pointed out the problem is the commuters from Long Island who can be seen circling the blocks every morning and following me as I walk to the subway station and commercial users who take up a disproportionate share of spaces. Residential parking permits would help here as certain spots could be set aside for residents (with NYS plates) to utilize. This does not contradict my earlier position on encouraging people to take public transportation. In fact I think residential parking would make parking worse as there is going to be increased competition for a smaller # of spaces. Second issues is business, which need to have customers pull in and shop and make purchases. There needs to be spots set aside for them to do that. We need to support our local business and art establishments.
Let not forget that free parking is not a constitutional right. The city owns the streets and they can do whatever they feel is in the best interest of the city with it. If you feel it necessary to have a car looking into the pay for parking options which are plentiful.
Unrelated, can we get rid of the awful parking area by the intersection of Vernon and Jackson and make a nice park there. This is one of the gateways to the neighborhood, and there is nothing there but a tangle of parking spots.
I am not sure if owning a car to save on groceries makes sense. The cost of fueling, insuring and paying the inevitable parking ticket out weights and savings you get from shopping elsewhere.
21, I would agree with you but only if you could get all the things a household typically needs in LIC — and you can’t. I know plenty of people who drive to Astoria, Greenpoint, and Costco simply because they offer far more range of goods than we have in LIC.
First, you have to check out foodcellar- they’re getting better (and cheaper) by the day.
Second, let’s make it us vs. them — us being the residents of LIC and them being the residents of Nassau County and other parts of Queens that come and park in LIC for the quick ride to Manhattan. I’m all for residential parking.
I just spoke to Joe Conley the Chairman of CB2 and there is not a public hearing at the Cassino tonight. it is a committee meeting and there will be public hearings soon and they will be announced.
The meeting is open to the public.
And residential parking permits will not be happening. Our taxes and our time were spent in a discussion that was already decided on, before any meeting ever happened. That was a diversion and a waste.
The fact remains that as the neighborhood changes, I’d rather have a say then none at all. It is clear that commuter parking should be addressed, and some feel that is through alternate side street parking. Others feel that more meters are needed in order for others from outside of the community to come and grace the business that are here. I have wanted the long strip of property that is being used by DOT as storage to eventually become metered parking. It’s on 48th Ave between Vernon and 11th. Joe Conelly feels it’s better suited to elderly housing. I feel that open space is just as important to LIC as built to the hilt space, and while parking isn’t beautiful, it could be combined with a border garden and serve as short term parking for local business, and family and friends coming to visit. But again, the community has been asking about this property for some time, and maybe in 10 years we can have a say about it. Angle parking is also up for discussion and making certain streets one way.
I urge you to attend tonight to help solve the problems we will continue to face with the current changing face of the hood.
We have a subway… the rest of us use transit to purchase things that we can’t find in LIC. It’s not hard.
I’m going to go listen to some “Indy” music right now.
CORRECTION:
Ooops. Tonight’s meeting is not a public hearing but a committee meeting. It is public, but public opinion is not going to be solicited. It’s a meeting where you can come and listen to the debate of the committee members. There will be public hearings announced in the short-term future. liQcity apologizes for the error. No juicy topics tonight. But a couple of rumors are about to get cleared up from Chairman Joe Conley:
Tonight there is a CB 2 , transportation and traffic subcommittee meeting to explore ideas and discuss recommendation that will be sent to Council Speaker Quinn and DOT in June, after a community public hearing. Tonight’s meeting is part of a series of meetings in response to a walking tour with Speaker Quinn and the DOT Commissioner. The meetings will be to discuss pedestrian safety, traffic flow, parking regulations and public transportation.
Tonight we will have a presentation by DOT on recommendation to improve pedestrian crossings and vehicle traffic at Jackson Avenue and 11th Street. Nothing has been decided. Alternate side of the street parking is NOT a “done deal”. It is one of many recommendations that are being discussed that may or may not be included in recommendations to Speaker Quinn and DOT.
Thank goodness alternate side is not a done deal. That will be horrible. I don’t care what you guys say about not having a car. LIC does NOT provide sufficient amenities or public transport at all.
The long strip of property that is being used by DOT should most certainly NOT become metered parking. Again there is plently parking in the neighborhood. we should not be taking prime real estate and turning it into non-productive car lots.
#22, what are you leaving the neighborhood for shopping-wise. Curious.
Best store in LIC = the Pickwick. You can get almost ANYTHING there. Snow shovels and salt? Socks? Nail polish? Flags? Shampoo? Office supplies? Keys made? Tools?
Check!
Where’s the Pickwick?
To #26′s point people who live in manhattan still get on the subway to buy certain things or go to a particular store and you don’t see them clamoring for parking. I think it is unreasonable to expect that everything that you could possible waat being within 2 blocks of you – Unless you want to live in a shopping mall. LIC has great transportation links. Use them.
The Pickwick is located on 21st between 44th Drive and 45th Avenue, across the street from the 23/Ely E and V subway, and near the florist.
In addition to the “Vernon Mall” island, The metered bank parking area where Vernon & Jackson meet, is where all the cops park.
Charlie.
Thanks about the Pickwick–I get my hair done right there at Ping’s and just never noticed it.
What’s Ping’s?
The beauty parlor/nail salon.
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Residential Permits are the way to go.