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Oct 27 2011

Long Island City public hearing goes South for DOT and North for comedy

The main drag of the Long Island City waterfront. – Photo by William Garrett

The public hearing held by CB2 with Long Island City residents on Tuesday was quite an event. We forgot the popcorn! To recap, the agenda included the DOT proposal to remake 48th Ave with an enhanced median and an additional 37 parking spots, as well as allow for public opinion on the latest slew of liquor licenses applications for Hunters Point.

First up was the DOT proposal for 48th Ave, which according to the DOT and CB2 was based on research conducted at the waterfront 4 1/2 years ago. This ‘revelation’ set the stage for the next 20 minutes, which were filled with a harmonious symphony of voices from hyper-local residents, all of whom were against DOT’s proposal. The general consensus from residents was:

  • Don’t add 37 parking spots, it’s not worth it and we’ll need 37 more tomorrow.

  • Bring alternate-side parking instead, to encourage turn-over and help parking for businesses. (Clean the streets too while you’re at it!)

  • Leave the two lanes of traffic and build out a landscaped median on 48th Ave to extend the beautification that has happened at the waterfront with Gantry Park.

Next up were the liquor license applications, and more than half of the applicants did not show up for the hearing. (Minus M. Wells – they withdrew their application for the location on the agenda prior to the public hearing.) Instead of listing who didn’t show up, it’s much easier to chronicle who did:

  • Laughing Devil Comedy Club, made a presentation about their comedy establishment and fielded questions from CB2 and the local residents on hand. Liquor licenses on Vernon Blvd is a bit of a sensitive topic (understatement alert) and residents were worried about the comedy club operating as a regular bar. The proprietors of the establishment maintained that they are hyper-local residents and would be accessible and receptive in the unforeseen case that they failed to keep any of the agreements stipulated in their liquor license. At the end of the public hearing, CB2 voted 4-1 to approve Laughing Devil’s liquor license, and they have informed liQcity that they are aiming for a mid-December opening. Get your abs ready for a workout LIC. The comedy is aimed right at us.

  • A new horse in the running, The Oracle Club proprietors made a presentation to the attendees of the public hearing about the new establishment a local husband/wife team are opening on 47th Ave, right across from Ladder 115, close to 11th St. The premise of the operation is an artists’ salon; a place where writers and other artists can gather, work, and meet clients and purchase food and cocktails while they’re at it. There will be a library, work space, meeting space, and studio space. Artists can join for a monthly membership fee and have access to the space, which the proprietors hope will include a full bar. The Oracle Club will be meeting with CB2 before their liquor license application is voted on.

And that’s all she wrote.

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Yesterday’s CB2 meeting was a “historic” gathering of the main condos on/near 48th avenue. It displayed all the new ideas, talent and energy that will make this community shine. Joe Conley was also an amazing servant, listening and facilitating the discussion. The next step is to hook up all the new talent and energy with the existing power structures to build out the median, the roads, the new library, parks etc. This will benefit everyone.

* In terms of reducing effects of gentrification, we need to see if we can get the City to start piloting resident-only parking in LIC.

#1 Anonymous / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

#1 How do we do that? I would love to see resident parking permits or something like it.

#2 Anonymous / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

#2 – It sounded at the meeting as if the DOT was still considering resident-only parking in general. We need to get more info. It was apart of the Mayor’s congestion pricing program years ago, so it should be possible. We should start with CB2 and DOT and ask them how the community could help make it happen.

#3 Anonymous / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

We shifted the above comments over here in order to keep some thread continuity. Carry on. Cheers – liQcity

#4 Anonymous / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Congrats to the Laughing Devil!

#5 Anonymous / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

The Oracle Club is an interesting idea.

#6 Anonymous / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

I’m a LIC resident, and would love to better understand how the addition of more street parking is a bad thing. Admittedly, I have a car which I park in the street. From my vantage point, the addition of parking for residents who can’t or won’t spend more than $300 a month for one of the local garages seems like a good thing to me.

#7 Anonymous / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Ok #12, not an attack, just a question. Are you a renter or an owner? Most of the opposition is from owners who don’t want to blindly create more parking. 37 spaces is nothing by the way, we need hundreds more. But instead of encouraging cars in the neighborhood, and destroying the sanctity of our streets, it would be wiser if we just shake up the streets we do have and get rid of commuter parking in the neighborhood. Which is what happens and why residents can’t park. Getting a resident parking permit situation will more than solve the problem, instead of creating more parking. those of us invested in the neighborhood are looking more long-term. That’s why we opposed it.

#8 Anonymous / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

any news on when/where m. wells might be opening?

#9 Anonymous / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

“reducing the effects of gentrification, we need to see if we can get the City to start piloting resident-only parking in LIC.”

I understand and agree with the need for resident permit parking but not quite understanding what that has to do with gentrification?

#10 will / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

That Oracle Club sounds like they’re using art as a backdoor to open another bar/restaurant on a very sleepy residential block. How often do artists meet with their clients over food and drink. Really? Once they have their liquor lcense, it will be a bar/restaurant. OK, maybe with art on the walls. I don’t mind the bar, I just don’t like the scam. Just come out and say it.

#11 Anonymous / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Probably the least “sleepy residential block” in LIC. The Oracle is across from the firehouse. Write what you know, not your agenda.

#12 anonymous / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

I know #11 – that was a silly remark.

#13 Anonymous / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

I don’t think the Oracle Club is running a scam. I think their idea just needs some more work and they seem to be still working out their concept as they go along. They also are new to the world of trying to get a liquor license in Hunters Point and will get chewed up by CB2 until they have a solid plan that makes sense with a full liquor license. But I don’t think they are trying to ‘trick’ us into another bar.

#14 Anonymous / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

The real scam is the State Liquor Authority.

#15 Anonymous / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

#11 I completely agree. I was at the meeting and I could not get a good understanding of why they even need a liquor license, let alone a full liquor license (vs. just beer and wine). They seemed highly unprepared and their business plans was all over the place. It seemed like they weren’t being transparent and trying to tip toe around the issue that they actually want to sell alcohol.

They really should invest some money in a business consultant that can help them get their thoughts clearly out on paper and work on a presentation before they start looking for a liquor license.

Also… what’t the rush?? Why don’t they get up and running, build the space, get the artists/memberships, performances/galleries booked… before they worry about selling booze to the public.

Hey… I’m all for small businesses in the area and I love to drink. But I expect a level of honesty and professionalism in order to give them what they want.

#16 LIC resident / 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Why are we accusing a future business of lying? This seems way out of line. Fine, maybe a little disorganized, but unless you know for sure what their intentions are, it’s bad form to anonymously and publicly accuse them of being dishonest.

#17 Anonymous / 6 months, 2 weeks ago

I have never met an organized artist in my life. Give them a break.

#18 Anonymous / 6 months, 2 weeks ago

Yeah, organization is not crucial in the right brain circuit. It’s already organized by a higher power. Oops, please note higher power not capitalized.

#19 Anonymous / 6 months, 2 weeks ago

Oracle Club sounds like a great idea. What’s the problem? More importantly, what’s a club (any kind) without liquor?

#20 Anonymous / 6 months, 2 weeks ago

That is a sleepy block. A friend lives very close by the firehouse, is an artist, and she and many older residents resent being evicted by the mindless money-making and devaluing of artists inherent in the concept of Oracle. It is a scam folks, and totally a front for drunks to be made; a mid-block prohibition seems reasonable. No. 20, above, perhaps owns that spot? Liquor makes dough. Period.

#21 Anonymous / 6 months ago

I live one building from The Oracle Club. I don’t get it – Why not allow them to sell alcoholic beverages?

It’s a new business, and we should promote the creation of new business in the area. I think they have done a wonderful job decorating the place; it looks great, and anyone who passes in the neighborhood is intrigued by the place. I think it adds to the good vibes we have here at Hunter’s Point.

I have not yet been there myself, despite living so close to it and seeing it every day when I go to work and when I come back, but I’m glad there’s a bunch of art oriented entrepreneurship going on nearby.

If I do attend an exhibit (whenever that may happen), I would be quite annoyed if I can’t buy a glass of wine or a bottle of beer.

#22 Skaag / 4 months ago

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