MTA to Queens: Happy New Year, forget about your precious 7 train (reprise)

Phantom 7 train, Queens Plaza, Long Island City
Hot on the heels of the B62 debacle and the G train blues comes more disappointing news for LIC from the MTA: 7 train service is being suspended for 7 consecutive winter weekends, from January 29th through March 29th, 2010. Hunters Pointers can rejoice in the return of the nabe’s favorite MTA shuttle bus from Vernon/Jackson to Queens Plaza. Aah, fun times. And so convenient too!
Anyone who has lived in Long Island City through any of the recent winters knows that the winter weekend 7 train shutdown is a seasonal ritual. Last year, the shutdown lasted three months and was particularly painful and disrupting, thanks to the simultaneously occurring economic crisis.
So what’s being done about it this year? Same as last time. Our local politicians are holding a press conference at the Vernon/Jackson subway stop, on Friday, January 22nd, 7:30am, at the Vernon Blvd subway station, in order to:
“Demand more comprehensive shuttle service during subway disruptions including a direct link to Grand Central Station and improve the public awareness campaign to allow residents more time to prepare for disruptions.”
Note to Queens West’ers and Hunters Pointers: Last winter some of the waterfront high-rises offered shuttle buses from their buildings to Queens Plaza during the weekend service train suspensions, that were free and open to the community. Perhaps they will again this year. We will keep you posted if we hear anything.
In the meantime, relish your weekend excursions on the 7-train…
I can tell you what the letter said: “blah blah blah”. Every year they write a letter to the MTA, our ‘esteemed politicians’, but nothing ever happens. Seven weekends can easily turn into 9 or 10 by the way. If there’s snow or ice, they still shut the train down, don’t do the scheduled work, and push it back another week. It’s disgusting, and my only solace is that it freaks out the real estate developers enough to get them to make a stink at the MTA. If all the LIC real estate developers protested there’s a greater chance of getting better shuttle service through them, than through the machine robots.
it is tough for the lic residents with the 7 as their only option, sux actually. only to get worse with hunters point south increasing crowding. lucky options are a short walk away with e/v/n/r/g servicing most lic residents quite fine, but a tough walk for the vernon
Takes about 11 minutes to walk to the E/V station. And the buses are there relatively frequently.
It’s more like 15-20 from the waterfront if you are not a speedwalker, and that’s actually quite long in the winter.
This is the nail in the coffin that supports us to move out of LIC. Deal deal.
Every subway line gets worked on. Whether in Queens, NYC, the Bronx or Brooklyn. Sometimes it’s the summer or the winter.
At least they don’t do it when the Mets are playing or the U.S. Open is around.
I might be mistaken, but it doesn’t seem that the other subway lines get shut down as much as the No. 7. These multiple, consecutive weekends of work are especially disruptive. And it’s been going on for many years. Still, there are plenty of places to eat, drink, and amuse myself in LIC these days, so I’ll be keeping my money in the neighborhood and supporting our local businesses.
Surely those of you that can spring $2-3K for rent/mortgage can throw down a measly couple of hundred bucks more a month and own a car. Subway, hah.
True #9 subways are for the little people.
While I appreciate the effort, Van Bramer seems to be following in Gioas footsteps. What good is holding a press conference going to do. Doesn’t being an elected offical have any power? I can hold a press conference or a rally. Get on the phone and start knocking heads and making noise until the problem is addressed.
Maybe this is a good time to support all the restaurants, bars and businesses in our neighborhood that everyone is so anxious to have.
The local businesses could exploit the subway shutdown by offering specials or discounts during the period. Why not generate a little excitement during a dreary No. 7-less winter weekend?
Because if a bar or restaurant gets a good crowd in LIC they will have the police and fire department called on them for disturbing the peace or some other stupid, false offense by their neighbors.
Why do businesses have to give discounts?? People in this neighborhood wanted these places and still want more… now you want discounts too!!
Discounts aren’t the answer. Pressure needs to be applied to the MTA. Our elected officials would rather appear in front of cameras instead of actually doing something about it.
the problem is not that we have no place to go for a drink, for crying out loud! it’s that some of us may have to work on a weekend. now my 10 minute commute is more than an hour.
or possibly some of us dont want to pay the outrageous grocery prices and maybe want to go to a real grocery store for the week’s shopping. or I might want to hang curtains, paint a wall, or something like that. the nearest hardware store is a subway ride away.
I’ve lived in queens for 8 years now, they do this every winter for months at a time. let that happen on a train going out to prospect heights; people would lose their minds.
#18 I agree with you! But you do have many, many places to drink in this area. As far as everything you wrote you are right. There are at least 10 places to eat in a 3 block radius but you can’t find a curtain rod! Go figure.
11, I disagree. Gioia was a no-show for many issues that affected small business and commuters. A conference can bring wider attention so that MTA becomes aware that they are being held accountable to the public.
You are entitled to your opinion, but Gioa had several of these press conferences//rallies protesting the MTA shutting down the 7 train, and nothing ever got done except for getting him more publicity.
Instead of having a rally meet with the MTA, the mayor, or whoever it is that has the power to fix the problem. negotiated threaten, or do what it takes to get results.
The 7 train has to be worked on and that’s the final answer. We can protest and rally all we want, but the work will get done. It would be great if they ran a shuttle to grand central, but how practical is that for the city? We have to grin and bare it. This should be only problems we have down here.
Yes, 21, just smile while high paid incompetent bureaucrats at MTA shaft you.
If OHP was successful in mitigating the diesel engine drone from the LIRR tracks, then surely our governing agents can get us a measly shuttle to Grand Central. No? Maybe OHP should write them a letter instead. Clearly they are more successful with the MTA.
A couple of decades ago, when the MTA was working on the No. 7, there were shuttle trains between Vernon-Jackson and the New York Public Library on Fifth Avenue. It was practical then, and there is no reason it couldn’t be practical today. It’s a bus, for crying out loud — not some spacecraft or some other futuristic mode of transport.
Exactly! A measly bus. All that cryin in the wind is going to do nothing. I agree, get on the phone and knocks some heads together!!
Ooops. I’m 24. I meant “shuttle buses” not “trains,” of course.
The rally was a photo op for our local politicians. Thats it!! We need a protest!!
MTA transit strike?
You got that right #27! Except for a few, it was the same people as last year nodding their heads and nothing gets done. If we could just get a shuttle bus to Grand Central, I think most people would be satisfied.
Or how about dollar vans? Anyone offering rides between Vernon and Grand Central would have a steady stream of customers.
The rally was a protest. Where were you #11 and #27? They needed bodies and obviously yours wasn’t one of them. Where you whining and being negative on liqcity perhaps?
Sorry, personally I would rather that there was no rally and that the elected hacks used that time to sit down with the MTA and figure out what needs to be done, why can’t it be done during late nights or other off peak times, why one track can’t run while the other is worked on, why whatever they are doing requires so many weekends for so many consecutive years, how the work is being staffed, etc. Most of all they should be threatening senate hearings, talking to the mayor, etc. That is the only way results are to be had. Much like the LIRR, the MTA will abuse anyone that does not strongly protest and make life difficult for them.
I had a music studio at 1063 Jackson and used to commute there from midtown. The 7 train issue has a been a persistent one with many stories. One was that they had hired a private contractor to do the signal light system, they f*&ked it up and apparently it all had to be redone by the MTA. I wonder what the excuse is this time?
There is almost no doubt in my mind that there is some screw up like the one described in #33 at the heart of this issue. That is why rallys and press conferences are usless to getting to the root cause of this issue.
How come the city has no control over the city public transit system? That makes no sense at all. It’s like the MTA has us all hostage.
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Do you have the letter to Jay Walder that is referenced in the media advisory?