Comments on: If you smell something, say something. http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something A Blog About Life and Real Estate in Long Island City, Queens, NYC Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:04:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10738 Anonymous Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:31:50 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10738 You're welcome #170. How can you defend it? All research and public information available shows that it is safe. They are not going to stop. With that in mind, my point is that if you still really believe that it is unsafe, you would move. However since you stay put, I don't think you really believe it is as hazardous as you claim. You’re welcome #170.

How can you defend it?

All research and public information available shows that it is safe. They are not going to stop. With that in mind, my point is that if you still really believe that it is unsafe, you would move. However since you stay put, I don’t think you really believe it is as hazardous as you claim.

]]> By: Townie http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10687 Townie Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:34:11 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10687 Excuse me, #169. According to you, am I to move rather than defend my home from a demonstrable threat? What am I--Chief Joseph? Excuse me, #169.
According to you, am I to move rather than defend my home from a demonstrable threat?

What am I–Chief Joseph?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10639 Anonymous Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:29:19 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10639 I feel that safe living in LIC. If I was as concerned as some of the people posting to this thread apparently are, I would move immediately. I find it amazing that you are complaining on an Internet discussion board about serious health issues, but do not move. Nothing is worth more than your health and money becomes irrelevant in that regard. So, if you are really serious you should not stick around. If you do, I will say that you do not really believe in your own complaints, but simply complain because you have nothing better to do. I feel that safe living in LIC.

If I was as concerned as some of the people posting to this thread apparently are, I would move immediately. I find it amazing that you are complaining on an Internet discussion board about serious health issues, but do not move. Nothing is worth more than your health and money becomes irrelevant in that regard. So, if you are really serious you should not stick around. If you do, I will say that you do not really believe in your own complaints, but simply complain because you have nothing better to do.

]]> By: Townie http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10499 Townie Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:09:20 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10499 Smells like fresh laundry? Smells like fresh laundry?

]]> By: thelicness http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10471 thelicness Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:10:44 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10471 Walking around last Saturday I smelled a heavy perfume smell in the air on the entire length of Vernon... Am I correct in presuming that I'm smelling air from the remediation site that they've added scent to in order to mask a bad (well, worse!) smell? Walking around last Saturday I smelled a heavy perfume smell in the air on the entire length of Vernon… Am I correct in presuming that I’m smelling air from the remediation site that they’ve added scent to in order to mask a bad (well, worse!) smell?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10412 Anonymous Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:53:04 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10412 Oh, ok it's only headaches, nausea, and difficulty breathing I need to worry about now. Thanks Dawn. I can breathe more easily now. And oh yeah, since the remediation has only gone on for 5 years and we have another round starting and going into next year, I am only 20% on my way toward the 30 year exposure. Yippie! Oh, ok it’s only headaches, nausea, and difficulty breathing I need to worry about now. Thanks Dawn. I can breathe more easily now. And oh yeah, since the remediation has only gone on for 5 years and we have another round starting and going into next year, I am only 20% on my way toward the 30 year exposure.

Yippie!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10383 Anonymous Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:24:24 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10383 Here are some official resources that addresses this issue: Progress Report - August 2008 - Queens West Development Site: http://prod.trcimg.com/QWDCStage2/images/FactSheet20080903Final.pdf "Based on the monitoring data and the observed practices at the site, contaminated dust has not migrated into the community. The dust that has been observed in the community is the result of handling clean soil being used to fill excavations and regrade the site." Times Ledger, November 11, 2004: http://www.licbdc.org/area_business_news.html?Year=2004&AID=59 "State Department of Health official Dawn Hettrick said small amounts of benzene were discovered in the odoriferous air. The level was so slight, however, that she said it would take 30 years of exposure to be cancerous and only caused headaches, nausea and difficulty breathing." Here are some official resources that addresses this issue:

Progress Report - August 2008 - Queens West Development Site:
http://prod.trcimg.com/QWDCStage2/images/FactSheet20080903Final.pdf

“Based on the monitoring data and the observed practices at the site, contaminated dust has not migrated into the community. The dust that has been observed in the community is the result of handling clean soil being used to fill excavations and regrade the site.”

Times Ledger, November 11, 2004:
http://www.licbdc.org/area_business_news.html?Year=2004&AID=59

“State Department of Health official Dawn Hettrick said small amounts of benzene were discovered in the odoriferous air. The level was so slight, however, that she said it would take 30 years of exposure to be cancerous and only caused headaches, nausea and difficulty breathing.”

]]> By: Charlie http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10347 Charlie Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:49:52 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10347 If it's happenning right now, call one (or more) of the newschannels and tell them there is an ongoing situation. They have news vans that cruise the city, just for this purpose. Charlie. If it’s happenning right now, call one (or more) of the newschannels and tell them there is an ongoing situation. They have news vans that cruise the city, just for this purpose.

Charlie.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10343 Anonymous Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:32:51 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10343 What can we do to stop this? What can we do to stop this?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10341 Anonymous Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:29:19 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10341 The smell is terrible. It comes in my windows and makes my head hurt. For a while I thought I had a gas leak. I can't believe that people cannot smell this! My windows are always open and I do not have air condition. This is horrible. The smell is terrible. It comes in my windows and makes my head hurt. For a while I thought I had a gas leak. I can’t believe that people cannot smell this! My windows are always open and I do not have air condition. This is horrible.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10330 Anonymous Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:55:45 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10330 For anyone who doubts the comment from a few weeks ago that it's like having a pail of gasoline in front of you, please go to the corner of 5th St and 47th ave right now and tell us what you experience. For anyone who doubts the comment from a few weeks ago that it’s like having a pail of gasoline in front of you, please go to the corner of 5th St and 47th ave right now and tell us what you experience.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10326 Anonymous Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:12:53 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10326 The DEP can't find anything harmful. Several workers can vomit or pass out or choke but that's ok because the readings say they are fine. Anything wrong with this picture? Your health and your spouse's health and your childrens' health are being sacrificed by asleep at the wheel bureaucrats who are doing nothing more than preserving the status quo. They are hiding behind readings that say all is ok but doing **nothing** to investigate why people are being sickened. The DEP can’t find anything harmful. Several workers can vomit or pass out or choke but that’s ok because the readings say they are fine. Anything wrong with this picture?

Your health and your spouse’s health and your childrens’ health are being sacrificed by asleep at the wheel bureaucrats who are doing nothing more than preserving the status quo. They are hiding behind readings that say all is ok but doing **nothing** to investigate why people are being sickened.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10321 Anonymous Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:41:48 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10321 The smell was sooo bad today. I think the worst it has smelled it a long time. The smell was sooo bad today. I think the worst it has smelled it a long time.

]]> By: Townie http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10316 Townie Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:02:30 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10316 Regardless of the complaints of the City and State workers, the tests at the Jackson Avenue building were conducted by the Queens Department of Environmental Protection, which found carbon monoxide (and other undesirable emissions) within safe parameters(NY1 News). However, similar tests have yet to be conducted by the Department of Protecting the People Who Have to Breathe in the Environment. Regardless of the complaints of the City and State workers, the tests at the Jackson Avenue building were conducted by the Queens Department of Environmental Protection, which found carbon monoxide (and other undesirable emissions) within safe parameters(NY1 News). However, similar tests have yet to be conducted by the Department of Protecting the People Who Have to Breathe in the Environment.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10306 Anonymous Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:07:17 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10306 http://tinyurl.com/5m8x86 I guess all those City and State employees are part of the local anti-development plot. http://tinyurl.com/5m8×86
I guess all those City and State employees are part of the local anti-development plot.

]]> By: Townie http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10293 Townie Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:57:45 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10293 #155 - Greenpoint? Yeah, and I'm an idiot. This townie's been here 24 years, dude, and you ain't ever gonna smell the G-point fart factory over here. Nice try, and I hope you weren't being patronizing and/or you're not some yuppie cult-member development apologist. I'm a block from the tents, okay? And I am familiar with the prevailing winds and all that, so don't even try that crap. #155 - Greenpoint? Yeah, and I’m an idiot. This townie’s been here 24 years, dude, and you ain’t ever gonna smell the G-point fart factory over here. Nice try, and I hope you weren’t being patronizing and/or you’re not some yuppie cult-member development apologist. I’m a block from the tents, okay? And I am familiar with the prevailing winds and all that, so don’t even try that crap.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10291 Anonymous Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:15:24 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10291 #154 -That aroma may have been coming from the sewage treatment plant in Greenpoint. They used to camoflage the odors with something that smelled like scented soaps or candles. Perhaps they have resumed that practice. #154 -That aroma may have been coming from the sewage treatment plant in Greenpoint. They used to camoflage the odors with something that smelled like scented soaps or candles. Perhaps they have resumed that practice.

]]> By: Townie http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10280 Townie Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:20:20 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10280 It really stinks today(9/15), with some sweet detergent-like smell. Wonder what other fumes this smell was designed to mask? It really stinks today(9/15), with some sweet detergent-like smell. Wonder what other fumes this smell was designed to mask?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10155 Anonymous Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:40:03 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10155 Hey did anyone go down to see those crazy boats at Deitch last night? That was some party....I hope some of the thousand or so people there were from LIC... Hey did anyone go down to see those crazy boats at Deitch last night? That was some party….I hope some of the thousand or so people there were from LIC…

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10152 Anonymous Mon, 08 Sep 2008 15:34:11 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10152 #127 Well said and so true! #127 Well said and so true!

]]> By: charlie http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10151 charlie Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:42:48 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10151 Now that makes sense. LICC just seemd like an incomplete name for an organization. Long Island City Community what? Charlie. Now that makes sense. LICC just seemd like an incomplete name for an organization. Long Island City Community what?

Charlie.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10149 Anonymous Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:55:49 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10149 LICC was a moniker dubbed by the Board of Standards when some members of the community challenged OCA's variance/hardhip request for a 13 story tower luxury tower (often mistakenly called the CUNY dorm). It was a convenience that the BSA used to differentiate OCA (O'Connor Associates) from the people who appeared from the community - the majority of them asking that the Board further explore the financials and also maintain the relatively recent zoning. The media then covered the story as if LICC is an official organized group. The media also took a 300+ signature petition and stretched that to mean that LICC has 300 members. As someone who has appeared in the media I am frustrated that even if I say "x,y,z", if their article looks best only with "z" that's what gets published. Those of us who have been involved one way or another with this effort do not pretend to be a representative group for the entire community. While there is a lot of support for what we have tried to do, we recognize that there are equally strong opinions in a different direction. LICC was a moniker dubbed by the Board of Standards when some members of the community challenged OCA’s variance/hardhip request for a 13 story tower luxury tower (often mistakenly called the CUNY dorm). It was a convenience that the BSA used to differentiate OCA (O’Connor Associates) from the people who appeared from the community - the majority of them asking that the Board further explore the financials and also maintain the relatively recent zoning.

The media then covered the story as if LICC is an official organized group. The media also took a 300+ signature petition and stretched that to mean that LICC has 300 members. As someone who has appeared in the media I am frustrated that even if I say “x,y,z”, if their article looks best only with “z” that’s what gets published.

Those of us who have been involved one way or another with this effort do not pretend to be a representative group for the entire community. While there is a lot of support for what we have tried to do, we recognize that there are equally strong opinions in a different direction.

]]> By: licness http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10148 licness Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:09:13 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10148 The local community board is Community Board 2, or just CB2. LICC is (I believe) Long Island City Community. Charlie. The local community board is Community Board 2, or just CB2. LICC is (I believe) Long Island City Community.

Charlie.

]]> By: licness http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10147 licness Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:00:01 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10147 #144, Is "LICC" the acronym for the local Community Board? #144,

Is “LICC” the acronym for the local Community Board?

]]> By: Charlie http://www.liqcity.com/health/if-you-smell-something-say-something#comment-10146 Charlie Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:24:27 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=962#comment-10146 By "most of the new buildings" in paragraph 3, of my previous post # 146, I am referring to the privately developed ones that are not part of QWDC, or the proposed HPS. Just thought I should clear that up. Charlie. By “most of the new buildings” in paragraph 3, of my previous post # 146, I am referring to the privately developed ones that are not part of QWDC, or the proposed HPS. Just thought I should clear that up.

Charlie.

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