Comments on: LIC losing light industry; paving the way for Greenroofs & the EPA http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa A Blog About Life and Real Estate in Long Island City, Queens, NYC Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:08:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa#comment-10156 Anonymous Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:47:35 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=933#comment-10156 the sky in this picture is nice. the sky in this picture is nice.

]]> By: Brandon http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa#comment-9968 Brandon Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:47:45 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=933#comment-9968 "The City has not made a decision to replace them with residential towers. In a capitalist society market forces determine the highest and best use of land." Uh, hi, market forces do not determine land use, local government has since the early 20th century. It's called zoning and is an implementation of the "police power" to protect public health, safety, morals, and general welfare. Thanks for playing. Fantasies of free market capitalism rarely apply in reality; said markets are highly regulated and/or incentived by government policy. “The City has not made a decision to replace them with residential towers. In a capitalist society market forces determine the highest and best use of land.”

Uh, hi, market forces do not determine land use, local government has since the early 20th century. It’s called zoning and is an implementation of the “police power” to protect public health, safety, morals, and general welfare. Thanks for playing. Fantasies of free market capitalism rarely apply in reality; said markets are highly regulated and/or incentived by government policy.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa#comment-9966 Anonymous Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:26:28 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=933#comment-9966 Agree with 9 & 11. Is there anyway that we can get this to happen? Looks aside it seems logical and would also increase safety considering that there is a playgroud and school nearby. I see too many kids trying to cross the 4 lanes mid block who are not paying attention to what they are doing. Agree with 9 & 11. Is there anyway that we can get this to happen? Looks aside it seems logical and would also increase safety considering that there is a playgroud and school nearby. I see too many kids trying to cross the 4 lanes mid block who are not paying attention to what they are doing.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa#comment-9965 Anonymous Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:34:54 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=933#comment-9965 #9 It would also make it safer during the greenmarket. #9 It would also make it safer during the greenmarket.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa#comment-9958 Anonymous Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:52:02 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=933#comment-9958 8, the city rezoned LIC to enable upper-income residential use, spelling the end of most industrial uses and the jobs they provided to working people. It was a conscious, programmed act of -- dare I say -- state planning, with lots of taxpayer-subsidized goodies thrown in. It didn't happen by some pure, natural force. There were/are other options to giving up the store to wealthy residential real estate developers and owners. It's just that no one has the courage or imagination in this city anymore to do anything but chase a quick buck. 8, the city rezoned LIC to enable upper-income residential use, spelling the end of most industrial uses and the jobs they provided to working people. It was a conscious, programmed act of — dare I say — state planning, with lots of taxpayer-subsidized goodies thrown in. It didn’t happen by some pure, natural force. There were/are other options to giving up the store to wealthy residential real estate developers and owners. It’s just that no one has the courage or imagination in this city anymore to do anything but chase a quick buck.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa#comment-9954 Anonymous Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:04:03 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=933#comment-9954 Why did the city extend the grassy median down to Vernon? Looking at this picture reminded me of that. I wish they would do it. It doesn't seem that it would cost much and it would really mak 48th much nicer. Why did the city extend the grassy median down to Vernon? Looking at this picture reminded me of that. I wish they would do it. It doesn’t seem that it would cost much and it would really mak 48th much nicer.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa#comment-9953 Anonymous Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:56:53 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=933#comment-9953 The City has not made a decision to replace them with residential towers. In a capitalist society market forces determine the highest and best use of land. If it is profitable to stay industrial it would. But if other uses are valued higher by society they will be pushed out. The City has not made a decision to replace them with residential towers. In a capitalist society market forces determine the highest and best use of land. If it is profitable to stay industrial it would. But if other uses are valued higher by society they will be pushed out.

]]> By: Brandon http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa#comment-9949 Brandon Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:00:10 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=933#comment-9949 Local light industry IS viable, though. This is not Detroit-- most all these buildings are full of active bakeries, repair shops, and other types of small businesses employing New Yorkers and providing services or products primarily within the region. They are not abandonded. The City has made a conscious choice to replace them with residential towers via rezoning. Local light industry IS viable, though. This is not Detroit– most all these buildings are full of active bakeries, repair shops, and other types of small businesses employing New Yorkers and providing services or products primarily within the region. They are not abandonded. The City has made a conscious choice to replace them with residential towers via rezoning.

]]> By: Charlie http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa#comment-9947 Charlie Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:40:19 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=933#comment-9947 I remember when all of the audio/electronics companies took flight in the 70's. Some of those companies were Marantz, Sherwood, Harmon-Kardon, Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer, Superscope, Akai, Teac, Sansui, etc. Recoton (maker of mostly accessories) was the last holdout, until they flew the coop in the early 90's. At the time, NYC was on the verge of bankruptcy, so industry decided to abandon ship. They set up shop in calmer waters, like NJ and CT, which gave huge tax breaks that the city couldn't afford to give . Charlie. I remember when all of the audio/electronics companies took flight in the 70’s. Some of those companies were Marantz, Sherwood, Harmon-Kardon, Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer, Superscope, Akai, Teac, Sansui, etc. Recoton (maker of mostly accessories) was the last holdout, until they flew the coop in the early 90’s.

At the time, NYC was on the verge of bankruptcy, so industry decided to abandon ship. They set up shop in calmer waters, like NJ and CT, which gave huge tax breaks that the city couldn’t afford to give .

Charlie.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa#comment-9941 Anonymous Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:39:53 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=933#comment-9941 It's a little late to be ruing the loss of industrial jobs in LIC/New York. That train left the station decades ago. Instead of trying to fight a lost cause, the city should do what it can to lure bio-tech and green energy jobs. It’s a little late to be ruing the loss of industrial jobs in LIC/New York. That train left the station decades ago. Instead of trying to fight a lost cause, the city should do what it can to lure bio-tech and green energy jobs.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa#comment-9922 Anonymous Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:19:19 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=933#comment-9922 Don't kid yourself. Fuel prices could increase 20 times over and local industry would still not be viable. Everthing is made in China and Mexico where you can hire 20 people for the price of 1 US worker. Don’t kid yourself. Fuel prices could increase 20 times over and local industry would still not be viable. Everthing is made in China and Mexico where you can hire 20 people for the price of 1 US worker.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa#comment-9920 Anonymous Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:39:27 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=933#comment-9920 LOL re: that audio slideshow calling LIC a "hipster enclave." Um, and them calling the South Bronx one for that matter. The sacrifice of light industrial districts for short-term real estate profit-chasing is going to hurt us in the long run as fuel prices continue to rise and local industry becomes more important again, though. LOL re: that audio slideshow calling LIC a “hipster enclave.” Um, and them calling the South Bronx one for that matter.

The sacrifice of light industrial districts for short-term real estate profit-chasing is going to hurt us in the long run as fuel prices continue to rise and local industry becomes more important again, though.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa#comment-9917 Anonymous Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:22:47 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=933#comment-9917 They are trying to grow this greenmarket into one like in Union Square. So those parking spots aren't coming back anytime soon. They are trying to grow this greenmarket into one like in Union Square. So those parking spots aren’t coming back anytime soon.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/linkage/lic-losing-light-industry-paving-the-way-for-greenroofs-the-epa#comment-9916 Anonymous Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:19:50 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=933#comment-9916 How long before we get rid of the greenmarket? The selection this year has been bad, there are fewer vendors than ever, and no one seems to go. I'd rather have the parking on the weekends. How long before we get rid of the greenmarket? The selection this year has been bad, there are fewer vendors than ever, and no one seems to go. I’d rather have the parking on the weekends.

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