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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well stated #6.  And similar kudos to #4 and #5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well stated #6.  And similar kudos to #4 and #5.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread got me hungry for Rustica. Got dinner there tonight, homemade fetuccine with a veal sauce, yum, and an italian pepper stuffed with bread crumbs, olives and pine nuts that was so unexpectedly delicious it made me shiver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread got me hungry for Rustica. Got dinner there tonight, homemade fetuccine with a veal sauce, yum, and an italian pepper stuffed with bread crumbs, olives and pine nuts that was so unexpectedly delicious it made me shiver.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait... there are people in New York City that weren&#039;t born here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait&#8230; there are people in New York City that weren&#8217;t born here?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense to Manducati&#039;s Rustica but we went last Friday for dinner and the food was great, however, they are highly disorganized when it comes to staffing and service. We will go back in a few months when they get some help, but when we went the waitress was overwhlmed by how many people were there, the owner was waiting tables herself, they took our menu before we even ordered because they needed it for another table, this was besides the fact we were ingnored when we walked in and then again for a good twenty minutes while we waited. So overall, a little too much fuss for some brickoven pizza and gelato for now.

Pizza was almost worth all the pain though, it was really good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense to Manducati&#8217;s Rustica but we went last Friday for dinner and the food was great, however, they are highly disorganized when it comes to staffing and service. We will go back in a few months when they get some help, but when we went the waitress was overwhlmed by how many people were there, the owner was waiting tables herself, they took our menu before we even ordered because they needed it for another table, this was besides the fact we were ingnored when we walked in and then again for a good twenty minutes while we waited. So overall, a little too much fuss for some brickoven pizza and gelato for now.</p>
<p>Pizza was almost worth all the pain though, it was really good!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12 is from Michigan, please disregard his shaggy-haired ramblings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12 is from Michigan, please disregard his shaggy-haired ramblings.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think very few people walk down that &quot;far&quot; on Vernon.  Which is lame...but I&#039;ve told at least five people about it and none had heard of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think very few people walk down that &#8220;far&#8221; on Vernon.  Which is lame&#8230;but I&#8217;ve told at least five people about it and none had heard of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is plenty of Italian food in Middle America.  

Manducati&#039;s is pretty decent, somewhat overpriced, and decorated like my grandma&#039;s basement.  Given that a lot of people are worried about their finances at the moment, its not a big surprise that the place isn&#039;t packed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is plenty of Italian food in Middle America.  </p>
<p>Manducati&#8217;s is pretty decent, somewhat overpriced, and decorated like my grandma&#8217;s basement.  Given that a lot of people are worried about their finances at the moment, its not a big surprise that the place isn&#8217;t packed.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9, either that or people head straight home after getting out of work at 9:30pm at their awful Midtown jobs and spend their weekends in Manhattan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9, either that or people head straight home after getting out of work at 9:30pm at their awful Midtown jobs and spend their weekends in Manhattan.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised when I tell people in the neighborhood about the new Manducatis and the say that they did not know about it.  I guess that if you do not read these blogs you are out of the loop on what going on in the neighborhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised when I tell people in the neighborhood about the new Manducatis and the say that they did not know about it.  I guess that if you do not read these blogs you are out of the loop on what going on in the neighborhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7, you know, I actually believe that despite all the hot air from the local media, the developers&#039; publicity machines, and our own assumptions about What People with Money Do, I think that most people in this country (including those in LIC) have really pedestrian tastes. They talk a big game about their love of wine tastings and greenmarkets, but that&#039;s just meant to impress their friends. Actually, my theory is that people are generally cheapskates and their taste in food is shaped by their Middle American upbringing. How else could one explain why a fantastic place like Manducati&#039;s is empty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7, you know, I actually believe that despite all the hot air from the local media, the developers&#8217; publicity machines, and our own assumptions about What People with Money Do, I think that most people in this country (including those in LIC) have really pedestrian tastes. They talk a big game about their love of wine tastings and greenmarkets, but that&#8217;s just meant to impress their friends. Actually, my theory is that people are generally cheapskates and their taste in food is shaped by their Middle American upbringing. How else could one explain why a fantastic place like Manducati&#8217;s is empty?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, what&#039;s not to like, new or old about duane reade coming, new restaurants, more choices, new grocers, sure if you are an old timer and your views became blocked by the hideous new waterfront buildings. or you are on a fixed income and food cellar is ridiculous, or if you live next to a construction site, but overall, as a new comer to lic, i really like it here, but would like to see it get a bit busier.  manducatis rustica, was there the other night, only 4 people at 7pm.  where is the love from the waterfront hobbits?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, what&#8217;s not to like, new or old about duane reade coming, new restaurants, more choices, new grocers, sure if you are an old timer and your views became blocked by the hideous new waterfront buildings. or you are on a fixed income and food cellar is ridiculous, or if you live next to a construction site, but overall, as a new comer to lic, i really like it here, but would like to see it get a bit busier.  manducatis rustica, was there the other night, only 4 people at 7pm.  where is the love from the waterfront hobbits?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. 3, there are plenty of newcomers who aren&#039;t so crazy about the pace of development in LIC either and may have chosen to live in LIC because of its relative low-key vibe. On the other hand, many oldtimers (particularly some homeowners and business owners) are in favor of the steamroller approach to development or at least just accept the changes. By setting up this false dichotomy, you are making it difficult for people oof both POVs to reach healthy compromises on what the neighborhood should be.

Right, No. 5. I thought the NY mag piece was refreshing. It didn&#039;t try to pick sides and showed in a respectful way how LIC embraces those with various interests, and they often overlap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. 3, there are plenty of newcomers who aren&#8217;t so crazy about the pace of development in LIC either and may have chosen to live in LIC because of its relative low-key vibe. On the other hand, many oldtimers (particularly some homeowners and business owners) are in favor of the steamroller approach to development or at least just accept the changes. By setting up this false dichotomy, you are making it difficult for people oof both POVs to reach healthy compromises on what the neighborhood should be.</p>
<p>Right, No. 5. I thought the NY mag piece was refreshing. It didn&#8217;t try to pick sides and showed in a respectful way how LIC embraces those with various interests, and they often overlap.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said #4.  I am one of those &quot;bridge&quot; people - came here in  1992.  I just want to repeat for #3 - my statement about liqcity&#039;s headline indicating that the article had anything to do with a &quot;battle&quot; was totally misleading.  It seems to me that she meant to stir up controversy when in reality it was just about two people - a new comer and an old timer- giving their reasons for loving the community in which they both live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said #4.  I am one of those &#8220;bridge&#8221; people &#8211; came here in  1992.  I just want to repeat for #3 &#8211; my statement about liqcity&#8217;s headline indicating that the article had anything to do with a &#8220;battle&#8221; was totally misleading.  It seems to me that she meant to stir up controversy when in reality it was just about two people &#8211; a new comer and an old timer- giving their reasons for loving the community in which they both live.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: #3 You may not be aware that there is a bridge generation. These are folks who came here in the 1980&#039;s and early 1990&#039;s.  They share a mix of views that includes pro-development minus the hyper frenzied market we&#039;ve just seen.  They believe in preservation but not to the extent where the neighborhood stagnates. 

The unfortunate polarized environment that some like to feed and fan is IMO the biggest problem at present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: #3 You may not be aware that there is a bridge generation. These are folks who came here in the 1980&#8242;s and early 1990&#8242;s.  They share a mix of views that includes pro-development minus the hyper frenzied market we&#8217;ve just seen.  They believe in preservation but not to the extent where the neighborhood stagnates. </p>
<p>The unfortunate polarized environment that some like to feed and fan is IMO the biggest problem at present.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The battle is real and is being waged in BSA meetings CB meetings and any other forum where growth and expansion can be challenged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The battle is real and is being waged in BSA meetings CB meetings and any other forum where growth and expansion can be challenged.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree #1.  In this case liqcity&#039;s headline re:  re: the contents of the New York Mag. article was very misleading!  I also thought that &quot;LIC takes a few bullets&quot; (re: the subway incident) was very flippant.  Is she tryi ng to compete with the New York Post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree #1.  In this case liqcity&#8217;s headline re:  re: the contents of the New York Mag. article was very misleading!  I also thought that &#8220;LIC takes a few bullets&#8221; (re: the subway incident) was very flippant.  Is she tryi ng to compete with the New York Post?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>liqcity, why did you say that the New York Magazine piece is &quot;continuing the battle&quot; between the older and newer residents? Nonsense. There was nothing of the kind in the article. It just highlighted the favorite haunts of two different people (one of whom, Mrs. Romano, I know). If you look at their lists, you can easily see how both newer and older residents alike would enjoy the favorites on each of their lists. I&#039;m an older resident, but I also enjoymany of the favorites on the newer guy&#039;s list as well as many on Romano&#039;s. Please, can we once and for all stop perpetuating this phony &quot;battle&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>liqcity, why did you say that the New York Magazine piece is &#8220;continuing the battle&#8221; between the older and newer residents? Nonsense. There was nothing of the kind in the article. It just highlighted the favorite haunts of two different people (one of whom, Mrs. Romano, I know). If you look at their lists, you can easily see how both newer and older residents alike would enjoy the favorites on each of their lists. I&#8217;m an older resident, but I also enjoymany of the favorites on the newer guy&#8217;s list as well as many on Romano&#8217;s. Please, can we once and for all stop perpetuating this phony &#8220;battle&#8221;?</p>
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