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Jul 28 2009

Long Island City sweltering Tuesday afternoon linkage

Jackson Ave beautification project, Long Island City

Jackson Ave beautification project making progress, Court Square, LIC

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Community Board 2 Chairman Joe Conley believes the bagel shop will be welcomed wholeheartedly by the community. “We’re going through a population explosion [and] it’s going to continue to grow,” said Conley, referring to the condominiums going up in the Hunters Point section of Long Island City. “We’re looking for stores and shops.” He said the community is in need of local businesses like dry cleaners, delis, coffee shops and bakeries. And “we’re certainly interested in projects that are ecofriendly.”

Funny, I thought “There’s a saturation of bars and restaurants in Long Island City, people are saying enough is enough.”

I guess all those people don’t need to eat or drink somewhere…

#1 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

That’s because CB2 is a group of geriatric people who live in Sunnyside or Maspeth (with a few exceptions). They have no idea what the hell is going on in LIC, what we need or don’t need, and should have nothing to do with decisions that are made here. It’s annoying that he’s so often quoted in the media as representing what the community of Hunters Points wants.

#2 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

That Jackson avenue project is really making progress, all right. If progress includes blocking off an intersection, and extending into the crosswalk, as it does in front of Brooks’. Another bang-up job by the city.

#3 rexlic / 2 years, 6 months ago

Wow I’ve never heard of serving alcohol in a bakery! What will LIC think of next!

#4 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

Does anyone have a list of the Community Board 2 members, and when and how (i.e. by whom) they were appointed? How long do they serve? Is there any democracy in the selection process i.e. can non-politically connected community members propose themselves or other candidates for this position? Are new members only appointed when someone resigns?

#5 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

I can’t wait for the McDonalds on Vernon. Everyone will love that. It’s a food focused restaurant that doesn’t serve alcohol and is family orientated. Surely this will unite us all, and will serve the needs of the thousands, upon thousands, of new residents set to come over the next few years.

#6 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

What we really need in the neighborhood is a hardware store. Anyone?

#7 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

Yes # 7

#8 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

7 and 8, right. And they’d have to sell gold-plated hammers to pay the rents around here.

#9 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

There a home depot in LIC I don’t understand the obseession with hardware stores.

#10 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

Obsession? They are a basic necessity and if you don’t have a car, Home Depot is too far. I am talking about a mom & pop type outfit in Hunter’s Point.

#11 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

Most neighborhoods (even crappy dying ones) have a hardware store, often a national chain like True Value, right on the main commercial street. It’s such a pain in the ass to have to get in the car or take mass transit to buy simple materials for a project. So why has the rest of the universe been able to provide such a service to their communities but we can’t?

#12 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

We had one on 21st Street, but it closed down months ago. There aren’t enough people to support one. How many times would you go there? Barely ever.

#13 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

13, I don’t agree with you. Barely ever? If we had a good hardware store on Vernon or Jackson, I would probably go at least once a week. When I’m doing a home improvement project, perhaps more. I think you underestimate the worth of these places, perhaps because you aren’t a do-it-yourselfer. Many other people are, not to mention artists and crafts people who would be steady customers.

#14 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

I agree with #14. We would use a hardware store regularly if there was one within walking distance. At the moment we get most things at Home Depot in the city.

#15 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

Then why did the one we had on 21st close down if there’s such a need? And there used to be several, but they all closed down.

There clearly isn’t a need for one.

#16 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

I agree. The market has spoken. If there was all this pent up demand for a small hardware store anyone that was open would have flourished. Instead they all went under. Most areas in the city don’t have a local hardware store. Hell most suburbs don’t have them either. The big box retailers crushed them all. What makes you think that LIC is any different? Also the G train practically stops right in front of Home Depot. What more do you want?

#17 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

There is a great hardware store on Jackson. It’s inside Dykes Lumber at 26-16 Jackson, right across the street from the Citibank building. Just walk in the big loading dock, and the door’s on your left.

Their hours are Mon – Fri 7:30 am -5:00 pm and Saturday 8:00 am – 1:00 pm. They have most everything you would need there. Plus, for a lumberyard, the guys there are pretty nice and willing to help. They even gave me some cabinet-grade particle board for free once.

Hope this helps!

#18 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

It does help, bigtime! Good bye, Home Despot…

#19 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

What we really need is a master plan for hardware stores and someone to mediate the rent negotiations.

#20 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

Is Lilien Hardware on Jackson still open? I am not over there during the day much so just see the sign with the gate closed.

Home Depot isn’t too hard to get to, but you may as well just go to one of the ones by Grand Central or Greenpoint. Pickwick has quite a bit of real basic hardware items but nothing too specialty.

#21 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

16, that’s ludicrous. Pickwick closed for entirely personal reasons. The owners are retiring. There’s absolutely a need for hardware here – are you nuts?

2o, your comment was as smart and helpful as the $15 drink guy.

#22 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

Pickwick closed? Doh.

#23 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

Pickwick was for sale for quite a number of years and no one bought it b/c it made no money.

Thanks #18, I didn’t know that about Dykes. Great info.

#24 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

What is wrong with people? Why do some many morons seem to delight in destruction? I heard that some time over last weekend, a group of people (or one? who knows?) tore apart new turf laid out on 51st Avenue where trees were to be planted in front of a new building. A newly planted sapling was also damaged by the rampaging horde. Neighbors and others pitched in the clean up the mess and are shocked by this mindless vandalism. If anyone has info, please pass it along to the police.

#25 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

“The market has spoken.”
What horse shit!

:-)

#26 Townie / 2 years, 6 months ago

Sorry, I believe horseshit is one word. Should be, right?

:-)

#27 Townie / 2 years, 6 months ago

Your observation is terribly correct Townie,

Personally I prefer bullpucky

#28 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

Or gobshite.

#29 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

Why is it HS? If enough people actually need a hardware store on a daily basis it would have been profitable and stayed open. Instead what you have is a bunch of people who probably go to a hardware store once a year and smal handful of people that go several times a month. Not good enough. Any store need volume to survive. The store that are here are the ones that can generate enough traffic and repeat customers to survive. The market has spoken.

#30 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

HS has spoken.

#31 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

The market apparently does a lot of talking and has ruled our lives during this forty-year Yuppie ascendancy, but to treat the notion as if it were somehow scientific, that is, an accurate reflection of real circumstances in real time, well that is the ongoing fallacy of our time. The market should stfp while it exercises a multi-billion dollar correction with your goddamn money, you blithering suckers.

The fact that a hardware store can’t survive in a community is a much more complex issue when rents are climbing and dislocating everything and everyone. Do not look at our community as if it were a market. There is a critical difference, as the community is devoted to the nurturing and promoting of its own, not to mention their survival, regarding which “the market” is singularly indifferent.

#32 Townie / 2 years, 6 months ago

Anyway, the full story is: Arthur (who ran Industrial Hardware on Vernon) cashed out when property values went up, and now it’s going too be the new Italian restaurant that everybody hates even though they’ve never even had a breadstick.

The old man who ran Lillien’s Hardware died, and Joe now runs the place over on Jackson, but it’s pretty good hike from here.

Citi-Wide lumber on 11th moved to Williamsburg when the building owner kicked them out to renovate the place for his daughter. Yeah, must be nice.

The South Asians who tried too run a place more recently gave new meaning to cross-cultural incompetence and were probably undercapitalized anyway.

So, honestly, dear concerned citizens and marketeers everywhere, it hasn’t got a goddamn thing to do with markets and yes…

…and yes, there’s Dykes. Which is not, I repeat, NOT a hardware store.

Have. A. Nice. Day.

:-)

#33 Townie / 2 years, 6 months ago

There are the facts #17. Paul and Al were great! It was like going to court…I sometimes wanted a lute. Hi jinks and fun while purchasing your screws, wood, glue, tools etc, etc. And a tipple on Saturdays. Do you know how many new folks I’ve seen barging into the pharmacy asking to buy a screw driver, a box cutter, because they just moved in and are panicking to unpack in their new neighborhood that they failed to noticed doesn’t have the basics?

Uh lets see….we sustained hardware stores for quite sometime on 3500 people. And then the development frenzy began and they either sold out or were kicked out. Now we are at 35,000 and we don’t need a hardware store?

Are you the white night #17? That would explain your lack of conciseness.

#34 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

It doesn’t even have to be a traditional hardware store. A place like Surprise! Surprise would be really useful too.

#35 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

What a pitiful beautification of jackson ave.

Take away metered parking and businesses will close up… new ones everyday realize where the F**k do our customers park?

I’ll be the designers either don’t drive, or have never been to jackson ave and walked up and down the street

Ill bet my next weeks paycheck, they used google maps to design this crap.

#36 Richard / 2 years, 6 months ago

Where is the hardware store on Jackson? And what about Dykes–first someone said there’s a hardware store there (within the lumberyard) and now someone else says there isn’t. I was looking forward to going over there this week.

#37 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

The hardware store on Jackson is approximately across from Dutch Kills bar. Dyke’s has a limited selection of contractor-related hardware, but it is a lumberyard. People who work with their hands know the difference.

#38 Townie / 2 years, 6 months ago

Thanks Townie, well they’re both right there so I can check them out at the same time. I like having the lumber and hardware together, I use both. Hey, maybe I’ll get a drink while I’m at it!

#39 Anonymous / 2 years, 6 months ago

All this hulabalu makes me want to try to open a hardware store. Any body know anyone who would like to back me?
I do agree with #34. Don’t know why all these naysayers aren’t putting together the difference in numbers between now and even 5 years ago. Seems like there are a lot of empty store lots around right now. Surely something rents for a reasonable amount.

#40 JB / 2 years, 6 months ago

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