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Mar 11 2010

Long Island City Thursday morning linkage; CB2 miffed at PS1

Our last nod to winter. Ciao! – PS1 MoMA, LIC (via b.green/liQ Flickr pool)

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Eye-opening link on the folly of the MTA and the role the unions play in the shut downs of above ground sections of the track like the one we just experienced:

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/12/02/2009-12-02_report_mta_crews_slackin_on_tracks.html#ixzz0YYZgVnJa

And you wonder why some people are so anti-union. A big part the reason the MTA sucks is the TWU. They are both crooks.

#1 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

oi personally like the wall. it’s seems brutalist to me… its meant to be stark looking and cold, in contrast to the museum building itself. i don’t think its meant to be “softened” with plants and trees, that would go against the whole concept. clearly its not there to keep people out, because there’s a huge opening in the front where anyone can walk in!

#2 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

Love that LIC residents don’t have to pay a cover for entrance to the Warm-Up series during the summer.

Water Taxi Beach could learn a valuable lesson from this.

#3 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

As a local resident, (I live two blocks away from PS1) the wall doesn’t bother me. MOMA in Manhattan has a scuplture garden walled off and nobody is complaining about it. It actually keeps some of the noise from the music at the Saturday Warm ups down to a minimum, otherwise it would be really loud in the neighborhood. And I love the fact that LICers get in for free and that there is a special speed line for us to get in.

#4 dan / 1 year, 11 months ago

the walls are used for artwork too. i remember ryan mcginness had a mural up once. and on a sidenote: the admission is practically free ($5 suggested donation, i think) so who are they \keep[ing] out\?

#5 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

I was a regular contributor to PS1 of $250 per year for about 10 years so I can speak knowledgeably about this topic. PS1 is not a good neighbor.

PS1, is not being generous when it offers free admission to LIC residents. like the Metropolitan Museum, it is only allowed to ask for a suggestion donation. The reason for this is that PS1 gets a line item allocation in the NYC budget. In addition, PS1 only provides a speed line to LIC residents because they were getting so many complaints about the noise. (Personally, I have no problem with the noise and anything that exposes people to the Museum is a good thing.). The Wall was built without any community involvement, not even to the point of asking opinions. The architects used for the project were from Los Angeles. So, of course, they couldn’t understand that people actually live in this neighborhood. In addition, few, if any people who work at PS1 live, or have lived, in LIC. The founder, Alana Heiss, who was a true visionary had general disdain for the neighborhood and saw it only as a relatively easy place to get to from her Manhattan home.

#6 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

Anything that angers the CB2 makes me happy!

But seriously, I don’t mind the wall at all and don’t see why everything has to be designed by the entire community. The point of the wall is that when you enter into PS1, it feels like you are in totally different world than the rest of the neighborhood – it’s what makes it special.

My only complaint about PS1 is that I wish it hosted more events than it currently does.

#7 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

I love the wall.

The fact that CB2 get their panties in a wad about architecture that actually has some thought given to design shows its success.

Enough of the bland condos.

#8 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

The Water Taxi Beach lets local residents in for free – you just need to bring ID that shows your address.

#9 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

The wall is fine and architecturally interesting – which cannot be said for most buildings in LIC (new or old). And keep in mind that when the wall was built not many people even lived in the area (obviously people did live around it, but nothing like it is today). So it was pretty understandable to view LIC as just an easy area to get to from Manhattan that was affordable and allowed them to have more creative flexibility in building the institution (e.g. building that wall).

#10 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

Is this what CB2 wastes its time with?? There are so many more important and pressing issues. Slap a mural on the outside of the wall and call it a day. What is the problem? It’s private property they can build a wall around it however they want.

#11 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

The Community Board involves itself in all sorts of minutae. This extends from liquor licenses to traffic signals, garbage, and even heights, sizes and materials used in architecture. I am surprised by the responses on this blog. For a group that I would imagine is socially responsible, I don’t understand the capitalistic/libertarian attitude that you can do whatever you want on private property. If that were the case we would have a complete free-for-all. There would be no zoning leading to the MTA to make as much noise as it wants, your neighbors constructing bars next door to your backyard garden, skyscraper being built wherever developers choose, etc.

#12 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

12, the staff at PS 1 and its architects are obviously posting above. I don’t know anyone who is in love with that wall. Most either don’t care enough to post a comment or think its pretty ugly.

#13 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

#6 is right on the mark with with all his/her comments.I’ve lived in the neighborhood for twenty years,and it has always been an open secret that P.S.1 had no interest of any kind
in this area or it’s artists.In fact ,until recently european artists dominated the shows and
studios which always puzzled us ,since they (P.S.1) got their building,land and $$$ from The City of New York.The wall is the ultimate rejection of this community, and that style of
architecture went out of fashion 20 years before the wall went up.

#14 mickisdad / 1 year, 11 months ago

I agree with 6 and 14.

Look at No. 10′s dismissive tone. S/he epitomizes for me the kind of language residents of the LIC have heard from PS 1 and their elitist supporters for many years. It’s the language of the snobby outsider with their nose in the air, not a supportive neighbor.

#15 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

WTB absolutely charges residents for entrance during their special DJ nights.

#16 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

When CB2 ponies up cash to make renovations they have a right to an opinion. Until then telling someone what to do with their property is absurd. i don’t like the color of the aluminun siding on your house. take it down and put up something more inviting. no, there’s nothing in the zoning that makes fences illegal. There are plenty of real issues in LIC being ignored that they should be focusing on.

#17 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

I posted that I liked the wall and I am not MOMA/PS1 staff…I just have good taste.

#18 #7 / 1 year, 11 months ago

Please be serious #18; at best it looks like the exterior of a 1980′s parking garage, or more
likely, some kind of fort/defense installation with those 12 inch wide gun slots that are cut
into the wall.
Ultimately, P.S.1 can, and did, build the wall it wanted, but it should not act like it has any
concern of any kind for this neighborhood and it’s residents.Letting locals in free to the
“warm ups” costs them nothing.As I stated earlier,considering all of the taxpayer gifts that
this institution has received from our City government,it ought to be a better neighbor.

#19 mickisdad / 1 year, 11 months ago

Good for them. I am glad PS1 could afford not to be bullied by tasteless locals.

#20 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

I think I have good taste and I think that the Wall is ugly. Those who like The Wall seem to imply that they are the only ones with good taste. This is extremely subjective. To me it has as much taste as a parking structure.

#21 Anonymous / 1 year, 11 months ago

Not a PS 1 staffperson. Live around the corner. Love the wall.

#22 Anonymous / 1 year, 10 months ago

I am certain #22, that either you have a good sense of humor or you
don’t live in L.I.C.

#23 mickisdad / 1 year, 10 months ago

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