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Oct 7 2009

Long Island City windy Wednesday afternoon linkage

Rendering of future Gantry Plaza State Park playground, Long Island City

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I wish the playground area wasn’t so big. The large open grass space was terrific!

#1 Stroller Mom / 2 years, 4 months ago

Miss the large open grass area!

I wonder where they’ll locate the bathrooms once they close them down by the other end? That’s a huge area not to have a bathroom close by. Are there bathrooms by the track or is that just a parks dept. storage building?

#2 Anonymous / 2 years, 4 months ago

This is a disgrace. Why didn’t the rip up the strip park on 48th and put this there? the open lawn was beautiful and now it full of swings and crap.

#3 Anonymous / 2 years, 4 months ago

Aren’t the parks supposed to be for the community residents? We ARE the residents. Everyone who’s seen this hates it. Including me. We had such a nice thing going on there, that open lawn was a joy.

#4 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

Goodbye peace and quiet while sitting or laying out while taking in our amazing view. Hello countless screaming kids ruining it.

#5 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

LOL @ all the whiny single people.
This neighborhood is really conflicted.

#6 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

6, it’s not only single people. I’ve got kids myself and hate the new plans. There are enough places for children to run around and play. It’s much rarer in NYC to reserve open space for quiet, passive use. What a travesty.

#7 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

Before everybody gets their panties in a bunch, keep in mind that there is a lot of park to come. There will be more green to the north and south. This playground was part of the whole master plan to begin with and at last LIC is getting the playground it deserves. If you look at new playgrounds in other neighborhood they put all our current playgrounds to shame.

Maybe now the kids will be so entertained by the new playground that they will not have to use the hammocks as swings.

#8 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

The beautiful open grass area was great but LIC does not have enough playgrounds. We live in a dense city where we need to make room for everybody. Those who are against sharing a park with a group that has no rights (children) are being selfish.

Also, there are definitely not “enough places for children to run around and play” (number 6) unless you like to have your children run in the street. Creative communal play areas for children are important and taken for granted in the suburbs and “good” neighborhoods in NYC. The rest of the state park, while it isn’t green, still is available for passive use.

Another suggestion for a great open space is Socrates Sculpture Park.

#9 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

Does anyone know who will run the concession stand? A restaurant chain like Shake Shack or craftwich would be nice – not sure if that is to much to ask.

#10 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

Wait, a have a better one: the Falafel King! Wouldn’t that be fabulous?

#11 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

I would like to formally invite all the dog owners in the neighborhood to use this new playground as they see fit. Playing with dog shit builds up healthy immunities for children. Don’t be short-sighted, parents; think of all the money you’ll save on allergy medicine!

#12 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

9, what’s wrong with playing in the street? Generations of NY’ers have played in the streets and have grown up to be clever, resourceful independent people — unlike the clingy kids with ADHD and peanut allergies you see so much today.

The city has lost something in the process: its guts and sense of uniqueness from the ‘burbs, where so many of the newer residents have come from. Our neighborhood used to be alive with kids’ playing stickball, skoonie, bottlecaps, red rover and all other kinds of games away from their parents’ constant surveillance. We’re raising a generation of privileged, pampered little wimps.

#13 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

#13 Let me guess, you also walked 2 miles to school everyday and you didn’t compalin about it.

#14 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

LIC already has tons of playgrounds – there are three within two blocks of the waterfront. Where is this shortage of parks coming from? What there is a shortage of is open space. This is a travesty.

#15 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

14, just the fact that you come back with that reply shows how out of touch we’ve become. I’m not talking about anything extraordinary here, for crying out loud.

Trust me, kids played in the street and parents left them alone. I’m here as living proof that it’s possible, and I didn’t get flashed, abducted, poisoned, run over by a speeding truck, or get lured into a life of crime in the process.

To answer your question, I walked –alone, SHOCK! –three blocks to school at St. Mary’s.

#16 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

They already have a playground a block away. Not sure why they need two.

#17 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

It has become an article of faith among urban planners to include ticky-tacky, post stamp-sized “play areas” with surfaces designed to make it impossible to abrade your knee, less some hysterical parent will sue, call the local news network, rail at a community board meeting about alleged public health hazards, or clog up 911 on their energency calls. It sucks.

#18 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

I have kids and hate taking away the open space for a playground here. Adults appreciated it so much more than kids, who, if you have kids will know, are happy to play in a cardboard box. Not that I’m saying that’s the option–just, kids don’t really care. Us adults, the ones paying the bills and killing ourselves at work need things too–like that peaceful and tranquil open space. I have kids but hate the attitude of \my little precious deserves only the best\. Give me back my park.

#19 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

I also grew up in NYC and took the public bus at age 10. I also played in the local schoolyard (ringolivo, stickball, basketball) starting around 8 without supervision. But prior to age 8, kids need supervision and a playground, not a street.

Also, there is plenty of open space. All of the piers are open space. The playgrounds for kids are not big enough for the hundreds of families that have moved into the neighborhood. I have been here for 20 years and we only one new playground (the very small one at the southern edge of the park).

Unfortunately, this is typically American. We look for our own self-interest even if others are suffering. The sense of community and the greater good has little meaning to those who believe that they are suffering. I would have hoped for greater understanding and sensitivity from my neighbors who live in LIC.

#20 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

#20 what about the strip park on 48th, or the shady park on 47th. Don’t those count? Sitting on a pier is nice, but that like saying you can replace lounging central park by setting up a few lounge chairs in times square. And kids don’t know how to play in an open field? You have to have swings and slides to play?

#21 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

21, don’t you know about the hazards of grass and the dangerous bacteria harbored in it? And what about the dangers of latex in rubber kick balls to immune systems of our kids? And what happens if those poor defenseless children don’t wear their head gear and get hit with that ball? No, sir — grass fields are a peril to our children and must be banned.

#22 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

#21. The strip park is only for basketball or handball. Unfortunately, it is a terrible place and not a community amenity. Shady Park has been in LIC forever.

The open green space is not being eliminated. So, yes, kids would be able to play in an open field. And, as I said, most of the park is already open. All of the piers are open space.

Your question “you have to have swings and slides to play” would be like my asking “you have to have grass to sit on the ground”. There is enough space here for everybody and children have always been ignored in LIC. Giving them a safe and fun place that is integrated into the larger park will only add to our community.

#23 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

Ok I guess we can set up blankets and have a picnic on the concrete walkways. No point in debating it. What’s done it done, I just think its a stupid idea to convert space that was usable by kids and adults alike into a playground for kids only. In a city where there is no open space, open space is much more valuable. This was our equivalent of the great lawn. Now we will have some schoolyard which within 2 years will look like hell. I also forgot about Old Hickory Park.

#24 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

Wow. This is crazy how everybody is reacting. Please keep in mind that this playground will only be a small fraction of the whole state park. The “Blue Park” is only a temporary playground that will be taken down once they start expanding to the south. If you look at all the pans for Hunters Point South you will see that there will be plenty of open space for everyone and if you look at what is being planned for the north you will find the same. Maybe right now the playground might not seem like a good idea but in a few years I am sure many will think differently.

#13-#16 I am sure that your mother did not let you play in the street unsupervised when you were 3, 4, 5 or 6 years old. So let’s cut the “pampered kid” accusations, it is only common sense that children need safe places to play. Why shouldn’t we be able to have a nice playground in the waterfront? I am sure we will have a dog run in the waterfront sooner rather than later.

#25 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

We had a beautiful open space and now we don’t. The worst is that this kiddie park is smack in the middle of the open space. Central Park, which I think most will say was brilliantly designed, has lots of kiddie play areas–off to the sides and mostly out of sight of the rest of the park.

#26 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

26 is right. Don’t break up the great expanse of lawn. You can stick ugly kiddie parks in less prominent parts of the park where they would spoil the effect of having a large, uninterrupted open space.

25, actually, I was left unsupervised at the ages you mention. All of us were. By today’s standards, I think my mother and the other women of LIC would be thrown in jail or had their children taken from them. I never felt in danger and I think a lot of the perceived dangers parents agonize over are in their own heads.

#27 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

#27 great idea let 4 & 5 year olds play in the street. I am sure a lot more kids were killed by cars back in the day, but that is okay because nothing toughens up a kid like being hit by a car. Ridiculous.

#28 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

Let’s not be extreme. I think what people are saying is that there are four parks within blocks of this new park. As a result you are not being forced to make a decision to play in the streets. Why ruin the only open space in LIC with another kiddie park? Especially when that area was suitable for adult or child use. It’s a very bad idea.

#29 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

I hate the new kids playground too. I was a huge fan of that beautiful open green lawn. Of which we have nothing like it anywhere in LIC. Why is it they build something beautiful and just ruin it with bad planning? I have no faith in anything that Rockrose is a part of. They have no great minds there… just mediocre and reactionary planning. I’m still irritated that they’re putting a brokerage there instead of another nice restaurant. (brick-oven pizza comes to mind, we don’t have any here) And now they ruined the park. And expect the concession stand to be mediocre food for exorbitant prices.

#30 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

“(brick-oven pizza comes to mind, we don’t have any here)” LOL. Or maybe Asian-Latin fusion.

#31 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

We have a different perspective because we get around by flying. We have never used the bathrooms at the south end. Sometimes we don’t even land first. But flying is hard, let me tell you. You try it, okay? I mean, gravity’s a bitch.
So, when my homeys and I are traversing the continent, we like to make a few stops along the way, and this is one of them.
We know why they are doing this. It’s not because they love children. It’s because they hate nature.
You can all start using parasols because we’ll be back next year.
(thanks to Honky Boy for translation)

#32 Gordo the Goose / 2 years, 3 months ago

I’m tired too. I can’t remember when I’ve done so much commuting (nearest translation-HB).
I want to apologize for Gordo’s tactlessness-after all there was a time when there was no grass at all along the river and we all had to hang around Gracie Mansion. Now we are grateful to have these new rest areas, especially since something so awful moved into Gracie Mansion.
But we must look at the bright side. We will have a smaller bathroom, but perhaps the human children will stop chasing us around.
And I will ask everybody not to poop on the humans. You get so cruel and nasty. It’s sad.
(trans. by Honky Boy)

#33 Rosie the Goose / 2 years, 3 months ago

It’s about time the kids got a nice park.

Shady park is nice but too small for the population of children in the area.

48th ave. is awful and not at all for the children.

The ball field is nice, but it’s for sports.

I only wish they would put lots of trees.

#34 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

I mean if we were eagles you would make a big fuss over us. Fall all over each other to feed us your goldfish or whatever you raise in your water-prisons, and get your picture taken like we’re friends. We know all about the bald eagles and how pathetic they are, but they’re your little bush-soul. That’s what you think anyway. If only you knew how they despise you. They don’t like being your symbol because your country sucks. That’s why you hunt us, by the way, because we’re Canadian. Well, screw you, too.
(translated by Honky Boy)
PS. We were trying to get out of the way of that stupid airplane. We lost Timoa. No miracle landing for him, just an ugly surprise.
We almost lost Aplis, our elder.

#35 Gordo the Goose / 2 years, 3 months ago

“48th ave. is awful and not at all for the children.”

Huh? Even the playground section of it?

#36 Anonymous / 2 years, 3 months ago

Gordo, wouldn’t you have to be a falcon to have any real fuss made over you here in LIC? Just judging from past posts.

Love your post #13! Ah, the fond memories of playing in front of the open fire hydrants in the summertime. You used to be able to get a special attachment for the water to spray like a sprinkler, and waste less water.

Oh, and back in the day, it was actually safer to play in the street near one’s building rather than the local playground. That’s where the pervs and addicts hung out.

#37 NYC Native / 2 years, 3 months ago

Forgot to give a shout out to Gordo and Rosie. Funniest postings in a long time. Thanks for the much needed humor to give readers a bit of perspective.

Good luck with those damned eagles! Nasty birds.

#38 NYC Native / 2 years, 3 months ago

Just to clear up any confusion, Gordo doesn’t dislike eagles, he dislikes the USA, which you all stole from the Indians, or Native Americans, whatever. Then you killed most of them and adopted the bald eagle as your mascot. Of course the eagle was revered by all native Americans as well. So Gordo thinks you double-suck as miserable hypocrites. Sorry, that’s the unvarnished translation. I’m just telling you what they mean. If it hurts a little, I apologize, but perhaps somehow it will prove therapeutic.
If it makes you feel any better, the geese don’t care for what the Kings and Quacks did to Canada either, okay?

#39 Honky Boy / 2 years, 3 months ago

Sorry, that’s Queens, not Quacks.

#40 Honky Boy / 2 years, 3 months ago

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