Vernon restaurant Blend facing staunch opposition to getting liquor license
Blend on Vernon Blvd @ 47th, LIC
The Latino fusion restaurant, Blend is jumping through hoops of fire with the community board to get their liquor license, and seems to be getting burned. Which is too bad, because one really does crave wine with their food. Not to mention, it really sucks for a restaurant business to not get those precious alcohol sales…which is where they make the bulk of their money.
It seems though, from a fervently supportive tipster and general word on the street, that the trouble is not with the board itself, but with a disgruntled neighbor(s) brandishing a conspiracy theory:
“…the owners of Blend took over a year to open up and can’t get their liquor license – not because of permits or construction delays, but because of a neighbor who delusionally insists the fine dining establishment is a devious cover for an illicit night club. As if anyone can really hide a nightclub on Vernon Blvd. Blend was forced to open without a liquor license and still operates without one. This is truly a shame! How can anyone say that there are too many bars/restaurants on Vernon Blvd? A strip that is probably 30 somewhat blocks long where you can almost count the restaurants on one hand. Now they’re going up against the community board again, with a strong chance that they’ll get denied. Why oh why are some people so primitive in their way of thinking… ? This restaurant is without a doubt fantastic, and they deserve to be able to complement their great food with some gorgeous Spanish wine. And we deserve to be allowed to drink it!”
What’s interesting about yesterday’s Daily News article about the matter (which has now been mysteriously removed) is that the alleged accusing neighbors are referred to as ‘activists’. ? And noteworthy, is commentary from the CB2′s chairmen Joe Conley: “”There’s a saturation of bars and restaurants in Long Island City, people are saying enough is enough.”
Also noteworthy, is commentary from one of the opposing neighbor/activists: “We’re not anti-business. We’re not even anti-bar. But the next thing you know, Vernon Blvd will become a mess like the Lower East Side.”
Is Vernon Blvd the next Rivington St? Hmmm… seems unlikely.
I’m for the petition too. Blend should get on this, work a little more to get signatures on a petition. do they even have one at the restuarant? I’d sign it.
I wrote an e-mail to CB2, Eric Gioia and Cathy Nolan showing my support for Blend’s license. Hope, more people do the same. Click or cut and paste link below for CB2 contact info.
http://www.queenswest.com/neighborhood/discussion/869709001/conversation_view?b_start:int=0
Does anyone have a better link for the Daily News article?
WTF is wrong with people? Who doesn’t want as many bars and restaurants as possible?
This post seems to be suffering from some technological difficulties. It was reposted this morning from yesterday due to a commenting bug, and all the article links worked fine. It appears that Daily News has removed the article… if you google “long island city” and filter for News, you can find the search result leading to the now dead link. Interesting. Wonder what that’s about.
you know, i really like blend… their food is delicious, and yeah, what sucks is i’d rather settle for less than great food that served with a mimosa…
my only gripe with blend is that they have some strange rules… when ordering brunch- toast and drink is only included if dining in, they often run out of items on the menu… but whatever, their food is still great
I also agree that the restaurant should get a fair hearing with its booze license. However, I find the overly dramatic (“distressing news”?) and hostile personal tone of the remarks (“WTF is wriong with people?”) and LIQcity’s original post a bit uncalled for. I don’t know much about this story, but I like to keep an open mind and think that maybe the people opposed to the license have a legitimate reason for their complaint. Let’s hear about it. I wouldn’t immediately jump to the conclusion that there must be something wrong with them or that they are conspiring to keep others from having their Pursuit of Happiness.
In the meantime, why not just bring a bottle with you to the restaurant? People do this all the time at many other restaurants in the city. If this petty business dispute is all you folks have to complain about and sign petitions for, you are clearly living charmed lives!
#5. The old people who run the show in LIC, and the long time ‘lifers’ who wish LIC was still an abandoned wasteland.
#8. Some if us do know the story and have seen this merry-go-round before, with Blend’s original license application and with Lounge 47. So, no, we’re not jumping to conclusions. You call this a “petty business dispute.” Did you pause long enough to think that this petty dispute might cost several people (employees and owners) their living??
As for BYOB, its illegal for a restaurant with more than 17 seats to allow it. That’s why Blend discourages you to bring your own bottle.
Yup. State Liquor Authority rules. Under 17 seats = OK to bring your own wine/beer. So all the restaurants that allow BYOB (Tuk Tuk included) are breaking the law. Blend used to allow it, but are now fearful of their vindictive neighbor watching their every move (told to me by the owner) and can’t afford to have any violations as they reapply for a license.
#8, please note that we said ‘alleged accusing neighbors’. They may have some valid issues, who knows? If you managed to read the Daily News article before they pulled it, it was highly biased towards the neighbors/activists. This whole thing seems to be the common nyc circumstance of neighboring residents upset by the inevitable noise caused by a busy restaurant, and who can’t understand that? Is there more to it? Probably. But at the same time, LIC needs good restaurants and lounges (as echoed by the wish list post), so the difficulty Blend is facing is relevant as community news.
This post is really about a few things: 1) obstacles restaurants/bars face in LIC especially on Vernon, 2) what is the mentality of the community board regarding new commerce (based on quotes from Chair people in the press), and through the commentary 3) what is the diverse mentality of LIC residents regarding such an issue. Point 2) which really references Joe Conley’s remarks (if they are true) about how no one wants bars and restaurants in LIC has nothing to do with the problems Blend faces with their neighbors.
Wow. Joe Conley’s comment is off the chart. Saturation? Is he serious, with the thousands of people moving into the neighborhood? I guess he wants LIC people to spend their money in Manhattan. Local business owners must be making too much money. Way to go, Joe!
LiQCity, you posted comments from your anonymous tipster that refers to opponents as delusional, devious, and primitive. Ouch. I think there’s a surprising and unnecessarily nastiness of Curbed in your post, which is why I objected. If the story stands on its own, you don’t need to slander people. The Daily News named an opponent by name, so for balance you should tell us who your tipster is. It wouldn’t be the owner of Blend, would it?
I’m all in favor of Blend getting its license. The more places to eat and drink out, the merrier. I guess I don’t understand the inches this story is generating. What business isn’t forced to jump through a few hoops in this city to get what they want?
And I wouldn’t be so confident that Vernon Boulevard won’t morph into Rivington Street some day. There are plenty of empty storefronts and, evidently, lots of boozers with cash to burn eagerly waiting for bars and restaurants to open up.
Give Joe a call and let him know how you feel about his ridiculous comment.
Queens Community Board 2
43-22 50th Street, 2nd Fl.
Woodside, NY 11377
Phone: 718.533.8773
Fax: 718.533.8777
Email: qn02@cb.nyc.gov, commboard2@nyc.rr.com
Chair: Mr. Joseph Conley
District Manager: Debra Markell-Kleinert
#8 & #14, we will always post emails from tipsters. (not every one of course, but if subjectively deemed relevant.) It’s not slanderous – it’s a reposted email that’s meant to provoke debate. Most of the liQcity readers seem to be intelligent people – use your filters. All tipsters have protected anonymity always. If you are the neighbor (who is also anonymous now since that article is offline), leave a rebuttal. You know, let it rip. Again, this is a blog. We have no responsibilities to report or divulge anything. It’s opinionated media where people can leave anonymous commentary. As you yourself are doing. How do we know you’re not the neighbor? We don’t. And that’s just fine.
liQ, against better judgment, I have to reply. You assume I’m the neighbor because I didn’t agree with the tone of your post? How silly. I said in my posts I think Blend SHOULD get its license. I hope you didn’t just say this to open me up to attack by other posters.
Just because your blog, which I like, encourages open opinions doesn’t mean there aren’t at least some rules of fairness. Spreading wild characterizations of this neighbor’s mental state of mind seems uncalled for. Why can’t you can be in favor of Blend without saying that those against the place are certifiable? Seems a little heavy-handed to me, that’s all!
I love Blend, and they totally deserve to have their liquor license. They have great food, atmosphere and service. As a resident of LIC, I feel the area is seriously lacking when it comes to restaurants and bars and we need more places like Blend. I live here because I don’t want to spend all of my time in Manhattan, but we need these commercial businesses. I see condos flying up on every corner, but who will want to live in this neighborhood if there are no amenities to living here? I’m forced to shop at an overpriced and over crowded deli everyday, this town needs a little variety as far as I’m concerned. Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love living here, but it’s ridiculous to think that Vernon Blvd. is “over saturated.” Are these people for real?
Basically, the cranky neighbors don’t like the fact that they bought a “house” on a commerical street and now find that they have commercial neighbors. That was the risk they took and were foolish to think that some day someone would want to open a restaurant or other business next door.
In the meantime the rest of the neighborhood is held hostage to the fact that they are now the squeaky wheel.
Again, the hyperbole of this thread is unreal. “Held hostage”? For god’s sake, one restaurant is having some trouble getting a liquor license. Honestly, who cares. It’s not like the Taliban has taken over LIC. Is that all the problems you folks are juggling with right now?
The squeaky wheel with a whole lotta power. Many of the ‘neihgbors’ are from families who’ve been here for years and years and are on the board and have a whole lotta say in what happens around here. They could actually kill Blend as a business… and if they do, then what we have is throngs of people moving to a neighborhood where they longtime residents have power and are attacking the commerce. This spells trouble if the rumor about the ‘neighbor’ is true. Which I’m inclined to believe because I know Lounge 47 has a ‘neighbor’ issue as well.
Hm. It’s sad that I even thought this, but as soon as I read this post, and the comments from Joe, I wondered whether there would have been as much opposition to a restaurant with another theme getting a license.
The Taliban has taken over LIC?
I’ve Blend but am subjected to realize I dont have the right to compliment my dinner with wine (by my old fashioned habits). I havent really went back too often for dinner for this reason but prefer lunch and deliveries as I dont drink during the day. I somewhat have noticed that 3 Asian Fusion restaurants have got their liquor licenses in the neighborhood which I call a slap in the face to Blend if you ask me. Furthermore how can we qualify this neighborhood to have fine dining without the wine ammenity. Its pretty conceivable that theyre a full scale restaurant primarily serving food (not a nightclub, lounge or barstop as indicated by opposition) for the simple fact they have operated well for 6 mos straight. Liquor licenses in this case should be granted and revoked if they are violating local ordinances. Its like they say innocent until proven guilty. The sad case with Blend they are GUILTY without the chance to be proven innocent.
I too just wrote my support for Blend. Everyone who cares should do the same. There’s no point in complaining about it, if we’re not willing to take action. This neighborhood needs more places like Blend!!!
You can write an e-mail to CB2, Eric Gioia and Cathy Nolan showing support for Blend’s license. Hope, more people do the same. Click or cut and paste link below for CB2 contact info.
http://www.queenswest.com/neighborhood/discussion/869709001/conversation_view?b_start:int=0
Would you give the Taliban a liquor license?
I just wrote too. If you are too busy/lazy to think of an appropriate email, please feel free to make appropriate edits to the below:
Dear Mr. Conley,
I am writing to formally express my support for Blend’s application for a liquor license. I have recently moved to Long Island City, and have eaten at Blend twice. The service was impeccable, and the food excellent. Unfortunately, I believe their commercial viability is being threatened because of the fact that they do not currently have a liquor license. This is a great pity, as it is an excellent restaurant, and the people involved have obviously invested a lot of time and effort into their business.
Further, I was quite shocked by your comments reported in the Daily News regarding the “saturation of bars and restaurants” in Long Island City. In my experience, this could not be further from the truth. In fact, it is the very lack of such local establishments that prevents many of my colleagues from venturing into LIC, despite all the wonderful qualities the area has to offer.
I urge you to reconsider your position, and support the efforts of new business owners in Long Island City.
Sincerely,
Alas #22 – I’m afraid you are correct. When people heard “Latin”. they immediately thought loud noisy nightclub. Small town people with small minds.
#22 and #29 . I agree. I have always detected a whiff of … anti-Latino bias in the whole affair. Perhaps not so much with the neighbor, since he seems to have a personal agenda, but with the people he has corralled into fighting his cause. Have the Asian fusion places received their liquor licenses?
Maybe the neighbor is a Taliban with a plantain allergy.
Is this the same CB that granted the Water Taxi Beach their liquor license? And yes, the other Asian restaurants either have their licenses. BANY’s I think is on the way.
Does Joe even live in the neighborhood or is he mistaking Sunnyside with LIC?
I think Blend is a joke of a restaurant. Who runs out of syrup at brunch? Also it would have been nice to have gotten our coffee sooner than a 1/2 hour after ordering. Most of our LIC friends who have eaten there have had a similar experience.
They are lucky to have a captive audience.
To the person who is so self centered and unable to appreciate the importance of this matter must be very narrow minded. Corporations are flooding this nation, and I will whole heartedly support any small business trying to make it happen. You are obviously missing the big picture…what happens to the next bar or restaurant that wants to open on Vernon? It’s called being progressive. The people who opened this restaurant have probably invested their entire lives to make this place happen. Have you ever gone out on a limb like that and put your entire self into making something happen? My guess is no, because you would understand why everyone else cares so much. I think it is very sad that people like you can’t look past themselves and help others in need. Not to mention, you obviously have nothing better to do than bash the people here that are trying to make a difference.
#34, what new restaurant doesn’t have some problems? Or established restaurant for that matter. I too, have experienced the frequent absence of items on the menu, but can always find something good to eat. They should take some of this as feedback though. They have amazing potential if they can overcome this liquor license obstacle and tighten it up a bit.
I would probably go and hang out at the bar a lot after work if you could drink wine there. Sometimes Lounge 47 is filled up. They are absolutely losing tons of potential business without the license. NYC in general is very much a drinking town.
I went to Blend two months ago and they still have some kinks to work out here and there but it wasn’t anything a few drinks couldn’t have solved. I would love to see Vernon turn into the UN of restaurants.
I think some people wold like to see NYC turn into Salt Lake City. People fight for your right to drink.
Queens Community Board 2
43-22 50th Street, 2nd Fl.
Woodside, NY 11377
Phone: 718.533.8773
Fax: 718.533.8777
Email: qn02@cb.nyc.gov, commboard2@nyc.rr.com
Chair: Mr. Joseph Conley
District Manager: Debra Markell-Kleinert
When and where is the meeting of the Community Board? I’d like to go there and ask a few questions!
To #34, you want a joke of a restaurant, go to Lucky Mojo’s!
Wasn’t Lucky Mojo’s gving away free food this weekend on Vernon? Anyone get some? (food that is…)
At least Mojo’s has liquor!
Actually Lucky Mojo’s is good, the food is terrific.
I think someone should e-mail Community Board 2 this entire comment thread.
Yeah, warm sushi…mmmmm…I wonder how long that was sitting out?
Lucky Mojo sucks!
Lucky Mojo’s has terrible food. Their only redeeming quality is that they actually have a liquor license. Now, if they could only get some competent waitstaff and decent cooks.
It’s just a shame when a place like Blend has great food, staff and atmosphere, and can’t get a liquor license. And then you have a pitiful restaurant like Lucky Mojo’s with a full bar. Luck Mojo’s has the worst food I’ve ever encountered, and I love to eat out.
We ate at Blend a month ago. I believe they had been in business for 6 months at that point. Also the restaurant was only 1/2 full.
Regarding our experience the caramelized banana pancakes we ordered were missing their caramelized bananas and the french toast with berries had no berries. There was no explanation and the staff was not particularly apologetic. The owner was on premises and they did not call him over. We got 10% off our bill. We could have gotten the same pancakes and french toast anywhere (with the coffee we ordered).
Also I think it’s sad that a little booze seems to make a restaurant passible to most people on this list.
P.S. agreed on Lucky Mojos. Another restaurant that is lucky to have a captive audience.
No. 47, watch out. Someone on this blog might organize a lynch mob for criticizing Blend. I know — you must be “the neighbor”!
Hey #35,
You’re so right! I’ve never done or risked anything. Nothing gives me more pleasure than to piss on other peoples dreams.
Wouldn’t it be great if the only restaurant choices we had were McDonald’s, Applebee’s and Taco Bell? Guess that why I’ve been living in this neighborhood…
I’m all for blend to be great. It has a very nice atmosphere and it would be great to have dinner there with a drink. But as a customer I do expect more when I’m paying $10-15 per person for brunch. 6 months is more than enough time for a new restaurant to work out kinks of this sort.
I have to say I have been to Blend a few times and I think the Food is great and the atmosphere has a great feel I would love to enjoy a nice glass of wine with my dinner I am for them getting license.
How did this thread become a Luck Mojo’s thread? This not about which restaurant sucks or not it is about how CB2 is hindering LIC’s progress.
I’m 34 you are now 49.
The tragedy is that CB2 is meeting the day after tomorrow, and yet no organized effort by Blend to present its supporters. They half-heartedly gave me a card to fill out at the end of dinner, with no mention of the upcoming license application. If they don’t get a license, its their own damn fault. Surely they can do a better job at mobilizing part of the community who have their best interests at heart.
No. 51, get off your high horse. It’s a freeflowing web chat, not an on-line political strategy seminar.
Let’s not forget that the same CB2 approved the QW project and the rezoning of LIC, which led to the growth and vitality in the neighborhood you see today. If you really want to complain about CB2, why not join the one or two other people who even bother showing up at their meetings?
Hey #49, I was referring to the comment made on #20
I thought this thread was about the Taliban’s new BBQ / Chinese sushi restaurant.
Taliban don’t eat pork, idiot.
That’s what made it weird.
#54 CB2 did a great job in QW, it allowed Avalon to build higher and we still don’t have a library. I have actually attended some of the meetings but unfortuately I have a job that does not allow me to go bitch on every meeting they have.
What is wrong with building higher? Why are some people so afraid of tall buildings?!
Tall buildings have shadows which inhibit old LIC residents’ brain growth.
I don’t mind tall buildings so much. Unfortunatley most of the ones in LIC are pretty tacky looking to me.
I don’t know, the Powerhouse looks pretty impressive.
The tall building in LIC are dangerous because living at such high altitudes seems to give some new LIC residents and inflated sense of entitlement.
To get back on topic, I just read the full article by the Daily News, these old time residents are completely delusional. You would think they would be happy to live in such an up and coming neighborhood. I always thought making a community better was a good thing. What do I know. It will always be a battle between the old and the new. People are scared of change and progress I guess.
The article lists one of the activists, Tim Lee. If anyone would like to visit his website and e-mail him your thoughts, now’s your chance. Go to tkleephoto.com
To crystallize the issue here, because I think there is a lot of buffoonery going on here as well as people taking a myopic view of this. The issue is do we want to discourage small business from setting up shop and doing business in LIC. That really what the question is – not whether you like Blend’s food. Today it is Blend, tomorrow its Water Taxi Beach, and then it is Duane Reade, etc. etc. These are place that I and many others enjoy going to. What sort of precedent are we setting here?
#65, progress, schmogress. Some people don’t mind late-night noise from restaurants, and some hate it. It’s as simple as that. This is the same problem being played out in neighborhoods all over NYC.
I completely agree. No one will want to move into all of these condos that keep on flying up on every corner if the neighborhood’s commercial end can’t keep up. I’m excited for a little variety in the restaurants I have to choose from, but that will never happen if we have to keep facing these old residents who are afraid of change.
Isn’t that what living in NYC is all about? If you don’t like it, then move to the suburbs!
Maybe the tall buildings remind the old-timers that they don’t have a dictatorship over what happens in the neighborhood.
“The issue is do we want to discourage small business from setting up shop and doing business in LIC. That really what the question is – not whether you like Blend’s food. Today it is Blend, tomorrow its Water Taxi Beach, and then it is Duane Reade, etc. etc. ”
Uh, Duane Reade is not a small business. Shouldn’t we be supporting L.I.City Pharmacy instead?
“To get back on topic, I just read the full article by the Daily News, these old time residents are completely delusional. You would think they would be happy to live in such an up and coming neighborhood. I always thought making a community better was a good thing. What do I know. It will always be a battle between the old and the new. People are scared of change and progress I guess.”
To be fair to these “old time residents”, and I think this has little to do with whether some restaurant can serve wine or not, I don’t think it’s fair to simply paint your idea of “progress” and “making a community better” as absolutes. And seriously, the term “up and coming” should be banned from the English language. I hope you can understand, at least, that maybe for these people a place serving $15 brunch is not improving their quality of life. Maybe the things that were once here that served basic needs at an affordable cost were more useful. Again, this has nothing to do with one restaurant’s liquor license (the place is there, the booze thing seems irrelevant from a “neighborhood activist” perspective)… I think your unsympathetic sort of “get out of the way of progress” characterizations have a manifest destiny tone to them that is of little help, though.
Also, I think it’d be sweet if nobody moved into these condos. They are pretty lame, oversanitized, and overdesigned and seem to be marketed to those who aspire to be gentry, not citizens. Just sayin’.
I too think the number of condos is ridiculous. Have you ever seen pictures of LIC 10 years ago?? It was a waste land. I’m not saying that we should brush these people aside and totally take over with big businesses. As a resident of LIC for 2 years now I would like to see more variety in our bars and restaurants but that will never happen if these people keep getting in the way of letting these small business flourish (Like Blend). I think you may have misunderstood me.
Blends brunch menu is actually cheap by my standards. For your information the price is 7.95 for most egg plates (including the GREAT HUEVOS RANCHEROS) which is cheap for a restaurant. And the pancakes are 6.95. big difference from 15 dollars. Brunch is very busy at times but well worth the wait. Maybe one day I can get a mimosa with that
Brandon the point is not that Duane Reade is a small business, but if Blend is too noisy, then maybe DR generates too much traffic, or maybe BCH generates too much trash. Where does it end? The point is do we want to be hostile to business?
Sorry you have no use for a $15 brunch, or live the new condos enought to move into them, but plenty of people do. No one holds a monopoly on what LIC should be. There are plenty of new timers here, and by now we may certainly outnumber the old-timers. Should we not have a voice in what goes on in our neighborhood? Or should we put LIC into a time capsule in deference to a vocal minority?
The ‘activists’ are _ and his cadre: the two ‘activists’ quoted, _ is his tenant and _ is his ‘friend’. If that’s the extent of the ‘activists’, then no one has to worry. He’s only interested in his personal fiefdom. What goes on beyond his front and back yard has never been his concern.
“No one holds a monopoly on what LIC should be. There are plenty of new timers here, and by now we may certainly outnumber the old-timers. Should we not have a voice in what goes on in our neighborhood? Or should we put LIC into a time capsule in deference to a vocal minority?”
Totally, but I guess also just make sure you respect where these people are coming from and why and not completely brush them aside as outmoded and in the way of “progress”… I dunno, I just try to think about my grandparents, what the heck it would be like if they place they knew their entire life, lived, raised a family, was suddenly innudated with glassy towers and restaurants that seem totally bizarre and overpriced to their eyes… it’s gotta be disturbing for the place you built and life and community to be seemingly sold out from under you and given over to a more “desirable” group of people with a completely different set of values and lifestyle in the name of, well, profit. Seeing the community you made completely and rapidly be replaced… it’s gotta be painful.
This has nothing to do with whether some place can sell wine though (not sure how a liquor license makes a difference in terms of a restaurant’s disturbanceyness).
Does anyone realize that Blend is located in a Commercial Zone for God Sakes there is a Taxi station across the street from them and a fire house half a block away open your eyes if people are so concerned about noise move to one of the side streets. Next I guess people are going to start asking if the fire trucks could lower the sirens.
Brandon – get over it. LIC was a wasteland years ago. The people that live there probably had some quiet and maybe nice street, but the entire area was lacking. Now there are new and nice tall condos that are bringing in active people that want nice amenities beyond dumpy neighborhood places. This wasn’t like some rustic paradise that is being converted into soviet-style buildings. The area was bland and dumpy and is changing to something nice and exciting. When you live in NYC you can’t expect a quiet dull neighborhood to never change. The old-timers can enjoy it, keep to themselves, or find someplace else that they like that isn’t in the middle of New York City. What they cannot and should not do is try to make it difficult for new businesses that the existing (and new) residents want to have in the area.
Well said, 78 (Brandon). This dismissive tone against “old-timers” is exactly the kind of divisive crap that these people have long resented. Do any of you people even know any of the old-timers? Do you even bother to say hello? For the most part, they are sweet, good-hearted folks who love their neighborhood, just like you. Let’s ease up and not inflate a new, small restaurant’s battle with NYC bureaucracy into some kind of civil war with an imaginary enemy.
I suspect that Liq’s original poster is the person leading the charge here.
No. 80, I hope the Taliban comes to NYC, puts you on a spit, and roasts you over hot coals.
I think everyone is still loosing focus on everything everyone keeps saying that Blend is going to be a nightclub with music blasting I have been there and that looks nothing like a club it’s a restaurant duh. Most in the community enjoy the food and go there for the food not the music and I would like to have a drink with my dinner just like most of us do.
It’s not about old timers new timers it’s about a blend trying to open up a restaurant yes I said it restaurant and allowing them to offer there customers a drink with there meal. Let me ask the people who are against them getting a license do you enjoy a drink with your meal??
I’m ALL ABOUT the HUEVOS RANCHEROS.
Sorry Brandon. I appreciate that you are opinionated and have the balls to name yourself in your posts, but $7.95 for a huge plate of excellent food is GOOD VALUE in anyone’s language, old timer or new timer.
Heck, I was paying more for a similar plate at Taqueria Coatzingo in Jackson Heights. And they ain’t serving Yuppies, let me tell you……
84, you said it. Throw those nice, active people out the windows of their exciting condos.
Is the pizza at Junior’s any good?
I’m sure its great! Henry Hill loved it ….
At least the Taliban didn’t take over LIC. whew! I was worried there for a second.
“saturation of bars and restaurants,” “a mess like the Lower East Side” – And anyone wonders why newcomers think the old-timers are just a bunch of narrow-minded cranks.
#86, I wasn’t commenting on Blend’s food or prices, just the tones/attitude/language of the poster I quoted. I’m sure it’s great and I hope people can booze it there. I am somehow paralyzed from walking into a place called “Blend” though, so I’ve yet to try it. Same goes for “Lucky Mojos” and “BANY.”
Junior’s: Best Pizza in Town, so I hear.
In any case, I’d love it if it was like Rivington Street around here, but I think it’ll unfortch end up more like, uh, Chelsea or Soho or Murray Hill or something instead.
Srrsly, this whole having to refer to poster “#__” thing is annoying…
Word, Brandon. I don’t think I’ve lived here long enough to be an “old timer” but some of these newbies really need to check themselves.
As to Blend, I hope they get their license. I’m not a fan of the restaurant – very, very bland – but, seriously, Blend deserves a chance to thrive, people need places to hang out and enjoy, and Vernon is a commercial strip. We need businesses that can cater to newbies, old timers, and the rest of us. So, Blend, I’m sending in my support (and maybe you can spice up some of your dishes in exchange)!
First off,
If you want to accuse people of being racist, you should know that the BEST Bodega was replaced by lounge 47. The family who ran the place were hard working, sweet, kind and served a mean taco! This is not a racist issue. development has displaced many a minority from this neighborhood. This is a quality of life issue/development issue. We are in a mixed use district and that means it should work both ways. Commercial business must respect that they co exist with neighbors. Having a garden restaurant is a HUGE strain on a residence. Talk to the people in the East village who’s lives have been ruined by uncontrolled bar noise. Unfortunately Blend is paying for Lounge 47 crimes. For your information only 2 people who actually live in LIC are on the community board. And they basically null each other’s vote out. I wish that everyone would look at the bigger picture. The fact that they intend to put another 300,000 people in this neighborhood. And we want services…and variety…not all bars. We also need responsible development that respects zoning. So that we avoid false inflation. With 23 million gallons of sewage going into the Newtown creek a year, and the flooding last year due to the several thousand extra residents we had without sufficient infrastructure…I would say that we will eventually be dealing with a lot of (literally) shit. The Gantrys was under water last year. So getting back to the issue at hand……Blend is a small microcosm of the larger problems we face as a community that gets an influx of 1000 people in a months time. How are we going to handle another 300,000 on the #7 every morning? We need to understand this one and work it out.
What’s ruining this neighborhood is Mid-westerns wishing it was dirty and saying it’s over-stanized! Please move to East New York or Bushwick. Plenty of dirty people like yourself over there who don’t want to work hard and make a good living. Why bother when you can drink PBR all day and book bands no one cares about?
And please do something with your hair instead of keeping it greasy and wearing tight-fitting black jeans. That’s what your grandparents are most worried about. Their little angel is smoking pot at Willow Creak at all hours instead of farming those Michigan fields for gas for the plow.
Can someone answer me why do people keep saying that Blend is going to be a bar it is nothing like a bar> I think people should just be a little more open minded and give these guys a chance. I am actually going with my girlfriend this friday to blend to enjoy a nice piece of Churasco with some Empenadas but I sure wish I could have a glass of wine with it but I guess we are going to have to see what happens.
If you must excuse me I am reluctant to consider myself an old timer due to age. I by far am a foodie that indulges myself in zagat ratings to head over the bridge at times to enjoy my evenings. Blend as an establishment as I said before (#24 )is not in the running as my pick on dinner due to its lack of wine. Point is as a long time resident I disagree with most stereotypical comments on this blog as I (an old timer) am for Blend having a liquor license to expand my local selection in ammenities to sit back and rest-to-get-what-i-want = restaurant.
Btw I am not the only old timer voting in on Blends liquor license. I was invited to a birthday lunch by other old locals at Blend last week and I am sure they wouldnt have minded adding on to that celebration!! Good night
#94 can you explain what about that rant has anything to do with Blend? Not sure what the 7 train and oil spills have to do with anything at hand. What flooding are you talking about? I’ve lived here for 10 years and never experienced a flood. you think all that will be solved by denying Blend a liq. lic.? And for the last tiem Blend is not a bar. Just because you keep saying it doesn’t make it true.
Commercial business must respect that they co exist with neighbors. Well how about residents respect that they co exist with business?
94 has no clue. People in the East Village love the back outdoor gardens at the bars and cafes.
OMG all these poor middle class Midwesterners are totally ruining the neighborhood with their farming and Pabst. They are polluting the scenery in front of my pet spa.
#95 wears Dockers.
Where’s the pet spa? Under the elevated subway line where all the dirty people live?
LOL. Dockers suck.
No. 95 wears PLEATED Dockers.
#94, lives are not ‘ruined by uncontrolled bar noise’ in the East Village. Ever heard the garbage trucks of nyc at 4am? people just adapt and deal with it because it’s such an amazing place to be. I think some people are trying to recreate the EV in LIC a bit, and others are trying to keep it like the secretly quiet small town it’s been for decades. And others are trying to turn it into Midtown or Hoboken.
The Taliban made him do it.
To All of our Blend Patrons and the Long Island City Community,
Blend is currently seeking an on premises beer and wine license: no liquor. We feel that wine and/or beer would become a nice complement to your dining experience with us. As most of you know, we have received some criticism during this time. And we do appreciate all of your comments and feedback. It is with your continued feedback that we are able to make Blend a wonderful dining experience and we would like to continue this tradition. We are hoping that with the help of the community, we may obtain this license and continue to provide the community of Long Island City with a wonderful place to gather and dine. We currently have a petition at BLEND 4704 Vernon Blvd, Long Island City (718) 729-2800. We would greatly appreciate anyone who would like to stop by and sign this petition as well as leave us any feedback. Once Again, We thank you for all your continued support! If it weren’t for the wonderful community of Long Island City, we would not be able to continue to provide you with Great Food and Great Conversation!
If you would like the petition emailed to you, please email us at info@blendlic.com
Thank You
Blend Management
As I recall, even if they get voted down by CB2 they can still take their case to SLA.
That’s why it would be important to continue signing the petition.
I cannot read another word of this foolishness . Although, I tried desperately to not respond to remarks about the “old-timers”, my primative “LIC” upbringing will not allow me to remain quiet.
To Anonymous #80 and the like,,
Please stop referring to the oldtimers of LIC as though we are a heard of beef with mad cow disease that must be destroyed for the well being of man kind.
Contrary to your belief, there are only a handful of “oldtime” residents that object to blend getting a liq. lic. , although, I cannot tell you who may have signed petition, because at a community meeting someone would not let me see the list. Although, I do know of “old-timers” that regret signing. They signed because they were mislead by the neighbor’s follower.
Furthermore, I (an old-timer of 55 yrs.) went to the community meeting and voiced my opinion, then, I stood on a corner gathering signatures from those in favor of Blend obtaining a license. Yes, Anonymous #80, I did that for all the world to see, not “Anonymously”.
Why don’t you come to the next Community Board meeting and voice your opinion openly? You just may learn something.
LIC_Eloise
Eloise, no. 80 is a fat ass backward Republican dealing with a rage problem. Don’t rile the dope. As you may have noticed, when their kind have something to prove, the entire planet pays the price.
I have no interest or stake in Blend, but you can also support them by eating there- even if they don’t have their liquor license. Sign the petition and keep them up and going.
I have eaten there a couple of times and have really enjoyed it. I’m not a drinker, so I don’t really care if they get their liquor license. But it would be nice to be a place I can also go out with friends.
Way to go Eloise! Does 15 years here sort of qualify me as an “old timer”?
I must admit that at the outset I was misled by neighbor and Gang – but it didn’t take long to see through them and change my tune. I prefer to remain anonymous on this blog, but I know that you know who I am.
Alright already. This is really getting a bit over the top. WE GET IT.
This has become curbed. All Anonymous postings.
Start the log-in posting already liQcity, you know you’ll have to do it eventually.
So I went to Blend to sign the petition. Did anyone else go yet?
#111 I totally understand where you are coming from. I took one of my visitors there about a month ago to eat. I am not a fan of drinking and eating at the same time so I dont mind but my company asked the waiter for a drink and was notified that there was no liquor license at the establishment. She shortly turned to me and said “what kind of restaurant is this”. I kind of felt embarressed for the restaurant considering the decor and feel of a fantastic establishment unable to serve alcohol. Hope they get their license so I can relive the experience appropriately.
Sign the petition at the restaurant then #116. And have your friend do it too. I’m bringing people from all over the area to sign.
Show those NIMBY’s for once and all!
login features will come soon. have no fear.
Went to Blend for dinner last night and was still not asked to sign a petition!! What’s up with that, Blend Management? Do you want support from the community?
I think its a matter of perspective here. People can’t seem to even IMAGINE caring about residents over bars (portrayed here as “the struggling small business man”). Its not that I don’t see the “greater good” things here — if you’re thinking that a few cranky old complainers are keeping a wonderful vibrant new establishment from flourishing — you’re sort of misguided. What makes a neighboorhood a good place to live has more to do with variety than how many bars you can fit on a block. And why is it more acceptable to ask people to move out of and or sell their homes, than it is to restrict the liquor license? I realize that most of you probably rent an apartment and are accustomed to the more transient lifestyle of New York, but many people have actually settled down and purchased apartments and property, especially in neighborhoods like this.
Everyone is SO concerned about the livelihood of these small business owners and not at all about the lives of the people whose quality of living and property investments are being actively degraded by noise pollution — all because they want a glass of wine with their meal? The issue isn’t whether or not Blend is a great restaurant — it could be the best restaurant in the world or the worst — the issue is that it opened its doors less than 15 yards from another restaurant/bar in a neighborhood that is still very much residential because of its mixed zoning. No one would argue that Blend, as a dining establishment, shouldn’t be allowed to exist — but as a bar, and a bar with outdoor space (where people can smoke of course) people get drunk and people get loud (and stay loud until 4am every night in warmer months especially) — then many of the people who DO live in this neighborhood suffer.
I’m all for development, I’m all for change, I’m all for shiny new highrise condos (even if they are often filled with douchebags), and moreover, I’m all for Blend as a restaurant being able to thrive. But the impact that alcohol + outdoor space + younger clientel, is going to be very negative for neighborhood residents. If you remove any one of these elements, then the problem solves itself — but I don’t think its reasonable to tell these residents to go fuck themselves so you can have a beer. I think its much more reasonable to go to a good restaurant like Blend, get a meal — and then go get drinks at a bar. I think its fair to ask a place like Blend to make a business based on food in the interest of benefiting the neighboorhood around it. Problem solved.
No. 120, you make the assumption that there is a spirit of cooperation in LIC. There isn’t. The whole vision of LIC that has been sold is that they will tear down the “dumpy” neighborhood and re-create an urban utopia for the “nice, active” people. Judging from their comments, these people could give a rat’s behind about whether their noise or whatever is an inconvenience to some old “crank.” That being said, it’s nuts that a restaurant can’t serve a glass a wine to its patrons. There should be a middle way that accommodates everyone. But that isn’t where LIC is right now.
#120, I don’t think serving drinks makes the place a “bar”… I don’t think anyone is going to go there primarily to drink. If you were concerned about a bar, it’d be another matter, maybe, but I don’t see a restaurant like this becoming particularly rowdy.
#120 Why do you keep saying that Blend is a Bar when it clearly is not. It’s not like you walk into Blend and all they have is a bar with no food people still go and enjoy the food without there being Beer and Wine so clearly they are a resturant. It’s like asking a clothing store to sell jeans but no shirt’s Fine dining goes hand in hand with wine that’s just the way it is.
#13-Of course it doesn’t feel like a bar, they don’t have a liquor license yet!
#120- Finally someone with some sense speaks out but no one gets it. What I want to know is who is selling LIC as the re-creation of a Utopian neighborhood with anyone that has lived here for any length of time whatsoever be cast out into suburbia?
JLB
To #119
Firstly, I am not a “transient lifestyle renter”, I actually own in the neighborhood and not in the new condos. “Residents over bars” isn’t entirely correct statement. Renters are just like you – residents. They pay taxes (probably a lot more than people who would be considered old timers) and by law entitled just as much representation as you are. And since there are lot more renters than non-renters it should really say “a very few residents over bars”. You seem to be clouding the issue here. It’s all very simple. The block where Blend is located zoned “commercial district” – http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/zone/map9b.pdf. Hence, it’s should be all about commerce – bars, restaurants, stores and other commercial establishments. And, yes variety is all about different places to eat, drink, dance and etc. This is New York City if you choose to live in the commercial district you will be putting up with certain amount of noise. And if you have a problem with that – I suggest moving to different area and I don’t care how long you lived there. Since, Vernon has been designated commercial area buildings on those blocks got a huge jump in value. Vernon storefronts are pure gold. I don’t know what degradation of property investment you are talking about. “alcohol + outdoor space + younger clientele” equal high rent per commercial square foot.
Now, Blend is a business and restaurant without liquor license isn’t going to survive in New York City. How would you like if some one would ask you to take an 80% pay cut? I suspect you would say “NO”.
I don’t see how Blend not serving alcohol benefiting the neighborhood around it? I believe that not having a glass of wine with Blend’s food is a travesty and so do other people. And guess what? They all live around it! So it’s all boils down to this. Two residents who live next to Blend and very few others who were brain washed by them are protesting Blend’s liquor license. They also convinced Community Board which doesn’t seem to represent the community at all but just a few loud mouths. And this is all being masqueraded by words like “many residents”, “benefiting the community” and “saturation of bars and restaurants”. Meanwhile, 3 or 4 restaurants within a few blocks got their liquor license just fine.
I hope as many people as possible who expressed support for Blend in this forum show up the community board meeting and help Blend get long awaited liquor license!
It’s wrong to assume it’s the old-timers versus the new. It’s simply about those who want the neighborhood to have more drinking choices and those who feel that too many bars may impact their quality of life.
Why do these issues become an outlet for people to trash each other? On this blog it seems there are only a few who are willing to be thoughtful toward both sides. I frankly feel they are the only voices worth reading all the way through.
I also note that the majority of insensitive statements seem to come from those who favor more bars. It’s unfortunate that they don’t get there is a perfect mix of old and young here who certainly enjoy drinking and certainly enjoy partying but think that we have reached a point where we will have too many.
And the idea that it’s racist is absurd. This is one of the most multi-ethnic neighborhoods in New York in terms of people who live and work here.
How we got here…. The law regarding a liquor license is clear – no more than three within 500 feet unless the owner can prove a special community benefit. (Change the law if you don’t like it.) Everyone who showed up last year for or against exercised their right. Blend lost primarily because the SLA felt they misrepresented (lied) on their application.
In the course of the hearings promises were made to the local Board the SLA etc as to how the owner wouldl interact with and work with the community. In terms of the issues that concern neighbors, they don’t and they won’t. On the other hand they did not mind spamming local mobile phones with ads.
All some of us want now is that they not use the back yard and that this become an enforceable stipulation on their beer & wine license.
This thread really has me shaking my head. As much as I enjoy having a drink with my dinner and wish Blend luck, I can’t help but feel that many of the pro-drinkers/development crowd commenting above are displacing some serious aggression. Their anger and sense of entitlement are what blow me away. There’s no room for compromise or understanding, just this selfish rush to label anyone who doesn’t follow the herd as primitive, a crank, a lunatic, a FILL IN THE BLANK. How did your parent raise you people? Do you even have an ounce of empathy for your neighbors or does everything in your rigidly controlled world have to revolve around What You Want? Jesus, I just wonder how you folks would ever deal with a real crisis in your life, like (god forbid) another attack on NYC.
May I suggest you all give LaVuelta on 44th Drive a try. They have good food and serve drinks. They also have outdoor space.
Vernon Boulevard is zoned for “mixed use”.
Long term residents are not opposed to development, but if you are going to have a community you need more than a bar every twenty feet.
That’s what side streets are for.
Vernon Boulevard between 50th street and 45th Rd zoned commercial district C1-1. Please check the zoning maps at http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/zone/map9b.pdf
Listen Everyone,
Its all very simple – Blend will not stay in business without being able to serve at the minimum beer and wine. 90% or so of restaurants do not make it in NYC so already the odds are against them. With the price of food skyrocketing even more pressure is placed on its survival. This is the basic economics of this type of business. So if you want places to eat, bring friends, family, boyfriends/girlfriends, grandparents, in-laws, business acquaintances etc then you need to support their effort and investment. The scaremongering of the few squeaky wheels should not negate these facts. So if you, the majority, want a community of dining diversity I suggest you show your strong support tonite.
All restaurants in LIC are in trouble because most people now are coming in sharing one dish and having one drink and taking up the table for a few hours. How can any restaurant stay open with that kind of business. Also when you drink at a bar, you should tip the bartendar. I’ve seen people order five drinks and leave the bartendar a dollar.
#132 – Surely Blend had to know the liquor license laws before they moved into that space though, right? Seems like it would be a hugely irresponsible oversight otherwise. I personally would like to see them get their license, with the amended “no outside use” stipulation because I understand the concerns of the neighbors, but they may be SOL.
The “supportive tipster” that the LIQ moderator seems to support has quite a few facts wrong. First, the notion that we are talking about the whole “30 block” stretch of Vernon Blvd is just plain silly. The main hub of Hunters Point as anyone knows is an approximately 10 block strip from Borden to 44th. There are I believe at least 15 places on this part of Vernon that serve alcohol with all but one being in an approximately 7 block strip. And you just need to walk a block or two in either direction for more places.
Second, that this is all the work of one neighbor is equally ludicrous unless he is a master hypnotist who holds sway over the several hundred people including the community board and politicians who opposed allowing Blend to violate the 500 foot rule.
Third, people forget that getting their liquor license was not as of right. Because there is a 500 foot rule the burden was on Blend to prove that their having a liquor license would provide an important benefit to the community. Whether by intent or mistake, it did not help their case that they presented false information on their application.
Fourth, I can’t sympathize with poor business planning. If you are going to spend all the big bucks on rent and decor and food service, do your frickin’ homework.
Finally, the objection at present is not to a beer and wine license. If Blend would agree to not use their back yard – one of the primary sources of potential nuisance to neighbor’s – and if that agreement were enforceable (!) – then at least I would have no problem.
Btw, I’ve enjoyed dinner there but they really seem amateurs at running a restaurant. They don’t have things on the menu, they run out of things. I don’t think their heart is really into the food side of things.
And yes, La Vuelta is by far superior on many counts.
#135 Kindly explain exactly what false information is on their application?
I keep reading that they lied or broke promises and disrespect the community.
What exactly have they done?
I dont know what they lied about neither. And if not mistaken a lawyer fills out SLA applications and in that case the lawyer misrepresented them. Bottom line is they’re a great business in LIC that people frequent. I think I was lied to long ago when I was told they were supposed to be a rowdy bar with loud music. By the looks of things it is an AFFORDABLE restaurant (thank god with this recession) with speakers no bigger than my hand installed in the ceiling playing a spinoff of elevator music. Way to go Blend!!
#135 – you have quite few facts wrong yourself.
First the tipster stated that “you can almost count the restaurants on one hand. ” He mentioned nothing of the number places that serve alcohol. That was all you. The simple point being made is that there are a serious lack of eating establishments in this area. Community Board 2 Chairman Joe Conley says “There’s a saturation of bars and restaurants” in Long Island City, people are saying enough is enough.” It is laughable that anyone would consider LIC to be “saturated” with any form of commerial / retail services. The fact that you would even argue this point says a lot. I come home from work every night late and wonder where I can go to eat without eating the same food every night. Most nights I bring food from Manhattan home.
Second you don’t need to be a hypnotist, just a sheep mentality and a rececptive anti-development / anti-condo dweller sentiment in the air and you would be surprised with what you can accomplish.
Third, how you you justify the lies levied against this business stating that it is a bar (when it clearly is not) and that noise is an issue, when there is nothing to indicate that it might be a problem or that the owners would not control it? These tactics amount to harassment of legitimate business owners. Depending on the restaurant, alcoholic beverages can account for 30 to 45 percent of sales. Serving alcohol can make a restaurant more appealing to the public. I’m concered that the community board is wielding an excessive amount of influence over the decision-making regarding liquor licenses. Up until two year ago enforcement of the 500ft rule was not existent. Why is is being enforced now selectively? This is an issue that could stymie economic development of the area.
Lastly, who cares what you think about this establishment? You made up you mind about them and all they stand for before they even opened their doors.
The last sentence is wrong. You don’t know who I am or what I think. I patronize the restaurant. The concern here is about noise and disruptive behavior. No one says it has happened here. It’s a quiet establishment. But unfortunately the only means the City provides to control the potential is to either regulate a liquor license or call 311 which is in this case useless.
Your display of legal technical facts is fascinating. You sound as if you could represent Blend better than their own attorneys. Too bad they don’t get that simply meeting with some of the responsible reasonable people on both sides might be more productive than a bunker mentality. Better still put your good mind to use creating a better way to encourage establishments to stay quiet where they share space with neighbors. And figure out a way to enforce this when they do not cooperate. Do you really think most of us opposed want to spend our time on this?
You are right it was “count the restaurants on one hand”. I count something like 17 within about 8 blocks – and there is more than one take out place either on or within a block of Vernon. Maybe try stocking your fridge and cook at home once in a while? If the rents were not all directed at high end luxury this and that we would probably have more diversity. Ah but don’t worry you will have the Amish Market soon to save you.
A lot of newcomers don’t know that we had a Mexican bodega (slightly scary place but great burritos), a health food store, a muffin place, a cheese shop, more than one coffee house. We also had more than one hardware store, a lumber yard, you know, normal businesses – many small businesses were pushed out. Where was the support for these businesses?
#126: “This is one of the most multi-ethnic neighborhoods in New York in terms of people who live and work here.”
Er, no. Parts of Queens like Jackson Hts and Elmhurst for sure, but LIC?? Do you have blinders on?? With stratospheric rents in our hood, I just don’t see immigrants swarming about, making LIC all diverse. All I see are white people … with a dash of Asian thrown in the mix.
“Immigrants swarming about”? You sound like Lou Dobbs. I think you could have used a better way to describe cultural diversity in those Queens areas.
So are we to understand that Blend is risking their beer and wine license (and therefor their business i’m assuming) on use of the back yard? Seems like if you’re asking people to bend the law for you then you have to comprimise some, no? Otherwise they’re not going to make it.
It’s great to see everyone rallying around Blend. I had no idea people in LIC were so fervent in their support of local businesses. So can we assume the same outpouring if another business, say Dorian’s or some other old haunt, is in peril of closing? I’ll bet not!
Dorian’s is great, millions of times better than Court Square. But I don’t think most people even notice its there because its never crowded. And they’re open late too.
#143. Its not about a business closing. Its about giving everyone a fair shake and not allowing a small group to dictate how changes come about in our neighborhood.
145, But it is, potentially, about Blend closing. Many people on the thread implied this is a distinct possibility if they don’t get their license. I just don’t think there would be the same kind of emotional support if the old stalwart businesses in the ‘hood were threatened with closure, through whatever means. The Blend case is about changing LIC as much as it is about getting the place its deserved license.
Businesses come and go – sometimes it’s a good thing, sometimes not. But if a small band of obstructionist neighbors cause Blend to close due to failure to get a license, what does that say to the next restaurant who wants to open up on Vernon? What business will want to rent Blend’s “former” space?
I think it says that they should be more careful not to open up within 500 feet of two other establishments.
What are the two other establishments that are so close to Blend?
Lounge 47, Cassino Restaurant and McReily’s Pub
I think everyone here would probably agree that we all want to respect one another and that fairness, together with a bit of compromise from both sides, might be an answer.
Unfortunately, some people do not believe in compromise or fairness. It’s his way or the highway. If you don’t agree with him you may risk being “accidently” hosed with water while eating lunch, or have your private conversations (accidently?) taped and then broadcast on a loud speaker, etc. etc. etc.
What is ludicrous (@135) is that the neighbor did not get arrested for all his antics, instead, he is considered an activist in the neighborhood. Funny, I’ve never seen him in any restaurants, nor have I noticed him at any community meeting prior to his own personal war on his neighbors.
I have a neighbor just like him. She couldn’t stand the sound of my children playing in my pool on Sunday afternoons. She claimed it disturbed her lunch. Fortunately pools were not banned.
Just to make a point, I have no interest in Blend/Lounge 47 other than what may be on their menu. I simply dislike bully tactics.
Dont’ get me wrong. I (#148, 142, and 134) would like them to get a license. But seriously poor planning on their part, unless there is something I’m missing here. It’s hard to feel sorry for that. And to further the fact, the commnity board has not seemed to disciminate against other new establishments that have opened in the last couple of months. So to call anyone “anti-development” seems very unfair.
I think the next business to open should be sure they are 500 feet or more from William Garrett.
WOW! I wonder what the owner of that building thinks about all this. Maybe next time his space is available he should first check with Garrett for approval.
The 500 feet law has been in effect for a while now, except that it was never (or seldom) enforced, which is what restaurants/bars take into consideration before opening. Yes, there is always the chance that one might not get a liquor license, but chances were slim, till this fight on THIS BLOCK. Had Blend opened up on the next block, next to McReilly’s, this would never have happened! This is only because they opened up next to one particularly antagonistic neighbor.
#150 can we all come over and swim in your pool?
Let us not forget the owner of the Cassino. He is on the community board and probably not looking for another restaurant (bar or no bar) to compete with his place.
Unfortunatelyor Fortunately the 500 foot rule is coming more into play EVERYWHERE.
Cassino has been part of LIC for years and will be here for a long, long time. The owner lives in LIC too.
Everyone,
There are some facts that need to be cleared up here. The 500 ft rule DOES NOT apply to beer/wine licenses. Period. So get that argument out of this discussion.
Blend would not have known whether or not they could/could not get a FULL liquor license when they signed a lease. The liquor license process that takes a few months and can only be completed once one has a lease, supply drawings of the establishment, checks are done on the proprieter(s) etc. You basically take a risk and hope that nothing derails the process.
In addition, how could/would Blend have known what kind of person was living beside them? I hope they spoke to the other businesses and maybe they were ‘warned’ but how could they truly know the extent of the venom of their neighbor(s)?
Finally, I asked them if the back-yard was going to be used and they said they were not going to use it as a concession for getting the beer/wine license. To me, as a former owner, that is a huge concession as they know they have no shot of surviving without at the minimum beer and wine.
Businesses cannot and will not move into your community if these sort of obstacles are placed in front of them.
Would you invest at a minimum $250,000 knowing this sort of mentality existed?
BTW, this neighbor I noticed was one of the dissenting voices recently against the CUNY proposal and was quoted in the press. This guy is not good for this community’s development.
I’m not buying the fact that one neighbor can convince an entire community board not to grant a license. I think we have to give people more credit than that.
#135
I’d like to see 17 restaurants on 8 blocks? Did we start counting bodegas which sell hot food, coffe/tea shops, bars and chinese take out places in the same category as Blend. Hell than there is more – I serve food for my guest during dinner party! Am I a restaurant now?
“Saturatiom?” Have you ever been to Manhattan or Brooklyn or other parts of Queens (like Jackson Heights).
Now, if you don’t like what is happening in LIC – move to some place with plenty of bodegas, lumber yards, hardware stores and cheap rents. But please don’t tell people where and what to eat! This isn’t North Korea.
you’re right 161. if you don’t like something you should just give up and leave… lame.
#159… your explanation is flawed. It seems that someone ‘planning’ to open a bar at Blend’s location would have been able to find out about the 500 foot rule (before any lease-related action was taken) with or without knowledge of neighbors’ opinions on it.
And certainly a few quick conversations with neighbors and bar owners could have helped them replace crossed fingers with a tiny bit of knowledge.
They didn’t plan. They derailed themselves.
It’s par for the course for someone who dumps a life’s savings into something without doing a minimal amount of homework.
In the end, neighbors with such distaste for the residents of the neighborhood they moved into don’t have to listen to the complaints of the ‘old timers.’ Do what’s easier. Listen to yourself. Take your own advice: move.
Thanks #161 – You beat me to it. #139, would you care to back up your claim and please list the 17 resturants that you are counting in a 8 block radius? The more you talk the more your hidden agenda comes to light:
“If the rents were not all directed at high end luxury this and that we would probably have more diversity.”
“We also had more than one hardware store, a lumber yard, you know, normal businesses – many small businesses were pushed out. Where was the support for these businesses?”
It’s becoming clear that this has little to do with a liq. lic. and more to do with you resentment of the changes to the neighborhood.
Sorry, I don’t care to eat at “slightly scary places” to preserve some sense of nostalgia. Also I have no need for a lumber yard when I come home from work. Also, sorry that I work more than 8 hours a day and do not have time or energy to whip up a home cooked meal when I get home. I must be a complete failure in your eyes.
“Too bad they don’t get that simply meeting with some of the responsible reasonable people on both sides might be more productive than a bunker mentality. ”
Who are you? Don Corleone? Why should any business man take a meeting with you to get your blessing on the enterprise?
162 – If you want a quiet, low-key, sleepy enviroment and you live in the middle of NYC, then yes you should leave instead of trying to make life miserable for everyone else in order to suit your tastes.
#164 sounds like with all your “I’s” it should just be about you. This is a community – with or without Blend or any other establishment.
151, are you saying that this bully Garett actually did those things???
Look up and down Vernon, there are apts above every establishment. While you are on Vernon in a restaurant, outdoor space/ smoking outside or just walking police yourselves and keep it down – be considerate of your neighbors. So problems like Blend are having won’t exist.
Stop using his name, I don’t care one way or another if Blend gets their license but if you are remaining annoymous no need to use others names. He does have a family.
#164… it’s surprising then that you have the time and energy to cook up the bitter stew you’re splattering on this site.
Get back to work. This town desparately needs your tax dollars.
166, I responded with “I” because “I’ was told that “I” should try stocking my fridge and cook at home once in a while. What a great thing to say to someone! I’m sure this guy is a real pillar in the “community.”
169, he should have thought about that earlier before he started illegally taping conversations and assulting Blend’s customers. Sounds like a real charmer this one. They should throw him under the jail.
He assalted someone now?
“Er, no. Parts of Queens like Jackson Hts and Elmhurst for sure, but LIC?? Do you have blinders on?? With stratospheric rents in our hood, I just don’t see immigrants swarming about, making LIC all diverse. All I see are white people … with a dash of Asian thrown in the mix.”
I think you have blinders on, because I see all sorts of Latino and Filipino folks, plus some East Asians, plus lots of Blacks up by Queensbridge. Oh, wait, are you only including QueensWest (TM)?
African-American please Brandon.
165 – you are making some incorrect assumptioins about me (imagine that, on a message board) first of all, i rent here. i’m not an ‘old-timer’ or a ‘tower dweller’. i dont’ want to live in a quite, low-key sleepy environment. but this ‘like it or get out of the way’ ideology is absurd. when your business joins a community, you are subject to the rules and regulations of a community. do you know the community board members’ voting records? they don’t appear to be ‘anti-progress’ to me. i’m all for development (although i wish some of it was done in a more tasteful manner) but don’t use Blend’s poor business planning as an excuse to claim people are bringing down the neighborhood. you can still Live Like a Star my friend.
YES #151, he did all those things stated in #161, and more.
Some afternoons, you may find him on his roof top in front of this hugh bill board he installed which reads “PLEASE BE QUIET’ in big red letters. He actually stands there glaring down at people who are enjoying a “QUIET” lunch.
Personally, I think the man is dangerous.
Didn’t someone in East Coast 1 complain about Water Taxi Beach. Avalon renters complain when Riverview has music too. What’s the difference?
Should have rented on Jackson – that’s going to be the strip in LIC
#178 – there is no difference. people are just disrespectful sometimes (or lots of times)
Whatever happened the muffin store? I felt like they left overnight. I missed those chocolate cheesecake muffins!
Has there been any complaints for Blend not that I know of they usually close early and the music is always very low I don’t see people hanging outside in the front.
I think Blend should host a community meeting at their place, just like the one at Cassino when the Board voted down the liq. lic.
The vote that nite was a tie, with the Chairman breaking the tie by voting against. Which I can understand because I believe he voted the with the majority of people present that nite.
It appears the tides have changed.
Blend should take advantage of our support.
i agree. and they should serve free tapas.
That’s the problem – restaurants can’t survive if everyone is always looking for a freebee
177… Dangerous! Really… You probably don’t know him, personally, that is.
He’s actually a very reasonable and charming person who is a great part of this neighborhood.
Btw, anyone can read all about all the action re: Lounge 47 in articles in the NY Times and the Queens Chronicle and some other publications from a year or so ago. None of it is top secret.
Or, just look at the content on this stream to see who’s really assaulting whom.
Repost (so that it is not lost):
To All of our Blend Patrons and the Long Island City Community,
Blend is currently seeking an on premises beer and wine license: no liquor. We feel that wine and/or beer would become a nice complement to your dining experience with us. As most of you know, we have received some criticism during this time. And we do appreciate all of your comments and feedback. It is with your continued feedback that we are able to make Blend a wonderful dining experience and we would like to continue this tradition. We are hoping that with the help of the community, we may obtain this license and continue to provide the community of Long Island City with a wonderful place to gather and dine. We currently have a petition at BLEND 4704 Vernon Blvd, Long Island City (718) 729-2800. We would greatly appreciate anyone who would like to stop by and sign this petition as well as leave us any feedback. Once Again, We thank you for all your continued support! If it weren’t for the wonderful community of Long Island City, we would not be able to continue to provide you with Great Food and Great Conversation!
If you would like the petition emailed to you, please email us at info@blendlic.com
Thank You
Blend Management
Why can’t people see there is more than one side of the story? Blogs seem to be havens for those who can’t find ways to participate in open face to face two way discussion. It’s sad.
It’s also fascinating to see how many anonymous people like to publish other people’s names.
Ok, go ahead attack these thoughts too.
lighten up #185. you gotta butter people up sometimes (plus show them what they would be missing if Blend were to go out of business).
eh, to be honest, i don’t care what they do. i just wish you weren’t so angry all the time.
“I’m all for development” is code for I’m all for low scale development that is contextual and does not change my life in any way whatsoever.
that is a false statement, you don’t know a thing about me. nevermind though, i don’t want to derail this thread, which i think has a possibility to have a real-world tangible effect on Blend getting its license.
176, I assume you are also 162. I was responding to your comment that it is lame to tell people to leave if they don’t like it here. It really doesn’t matter who you are; your comment was inane. We are saying that many of the complainers of the new development and business coming into LIC seem to take some righteous attitude that anything that changes their old sleepy ways is wrong. For those people, they should realize that they live in the middle of NYC and that if they want a sleepy, quiet place, they should move out to the suburbs and not expect their fellow neighbor city-dwellers to just give in to their miserable whining. Blend is a nice new restaurant that wants to serve wine and beer with dinner in a location on a commercial street near other similar businesses. If some NIMBYs in the area are against it because they don’t want more restaurants and crowds, then they should consider moving someplace else.
#192, using your logic, part of city life is having someone open thier window to tell you to quiet down if you’re being loud and disruptive. So, if that’s an aspect of city living that you don’t like, then there are plenty of other neighborhoods that would love to have you, too.
i’m not arguing against blend at all, and . obviously everyone is allowed their own opinion, but they shouldn’t move if their opinion is different than yours. they should rather be open to differing opinions, which i think the board has clearly shown it has.
here’s a summary. development – yes. entitlment – no. (should work for both sides new, and old)
Blend has not sold one beer and are suffering the consequences of trends set by Lounge 47, Water Taxi Beach and others for vomit on the street, noise, etc… — at one recent meeting, a neighbor mentioned being harassed by a patron of the rowdier bars, for example.
The behavior of these bar patrons and neglect of their owners has created the need for much police and community board intervention. That’s a clear indication that something’s wrong. People from all over LIC show up to air their grievances when the meetings occur.
It makes sense that community representatives are cautious about Blend, a place claiming to be an upscale restaurant, but has a bar twice the size of the kitchen.
But assuming Blend has true intentions of being the better neighbor, their petition should be less about asking people if they want wine with their meal (who doesn’t?). That won’t be compelling to the community board/SLA.
Instead they should be petitioning Lounge 47 and others to reduce whatever is considered a negative impact on their block.
The suggestion to Blend is to indeed take advantage of the current level of support. But use it as leverage to become a better neighbor. Use it in a positive way to encourage other bars to be considerate of next door neighbors. As a result Blend could possibly see a dramatic reduction of complaints from crazy neighbors and can likely create a better image for themselves.
Does Blend really want to be associated with a mob that is telling ‘old timers’ to scram? That’s another headline in the making.
On another note: In the spirit of giving credit where credit is due, Water Taxi Beach made specific commitments to mitigate negative impacts. They promised to add security and additional resources, including more and cleaner bathrooms (so patrons don’t have to go in the streets and into other establishments) and signs and people to direct and control the herd of inebriated partiers traveling to and fro their establishment. (At their own expense).
Additionally, they promised to implement the changes in a way that leads to a measurable, recognizable, positive difference that benefits everyone. If they mean it, it may just work.
Gee whiz, I just walked by Blend, and it was empty, but the wait staff was busy on the liQcity Blog….blogging away! Something to do when you don’t have customers.
#196 – lol
too fuuny 189
196 — I guess we know now who is telling old timers/”complainers” to move out!
Hey Blend, so much for making nice nice with your community eh?. I doubt you’re the ones with the fair and balanced views on this stream… and we all know the rest is pure venom… so…
Geez…. I wonder what their hourly rate is.
hey #196…what proof do you have that the waitstaff is blogging on this sight? that is quite an assumption!
#196, you sound paranoid..maybe you’re the crazy neighbor. Get a life!
they are posting. they just signed a post at #187. talk about a conspiracy theory.
200- waitstaff get less than minimum wage, they make their $ based on tips, which is even more of a reason that Blend needs their beer and wine license, these people are suffering I’m sure. Alcohol brings up the size of the bill, which then increases the size of the tip. It also brings in more money to the restaurant obviously. So you see, everyone working there is being effected. I wish some of you people would be more sensitive.
#196 what proof do you have that they wrote that? My point exactly. LIQ should have a login system for people like #196 to prove them wrong.
People like #196 have nothing better to do than spread rumors and act paranoid…believe me, I do not work at Blend, and I fully welcome their business. I don’t understand what is wrong with people like you. Give it a rest already!
Relax, #206. Blend is allowed to be posting on here. This is all about them after all.
They should be weighing in… and it’s good for the community to see if they make any attempt to temper the nastiness on this blog, or if they add to, ignore or encourage the vindictiveness that’s the special of the day on the liQcity menu.
This is a small chance for them to offer up thier point of view to the community, rather than just asking for something.
I doubt that the wait staff at Blend all have computers on which to be blogging these posts. Please don’t turn this thread into a thing of riducule. For that sort of commenting you can go to Curbed or Queens Crap.
I understand that they are allowed to post their thoughts…just as we all are…but to accuse them of all the HATE on this stream isn’t fair. So I’ll say it again, people like #196 and #199 need to give it a rest.
I really thought 196 was just joking around.
I would love if everyone that has posted on this blog would all meet. It would be a blood bath! Or maybe none of you would have the courage to say these things face to face. No one is willing to listen to one another. It’s no wonder our nation is facing such a crisis. Selfish, selfish people. Everyone with their own agendas, and opinions, but no compromise. When is the last time any of you faced a stranger on the street and paid them a smile? Oh I forgot you’re too busy with your own lives to care.
Like I said, they should be posting if they are not.
And your assessment is correct. There is a lot of hate on the site. And that hate is pretty effective in crowding out people with reasonable and constructive points of view to contribute.
So, it would be good to hear Blend’s perspective on, for instance, ‘new neighbors’ telling ‘old timers’ to leave the neighborhood.
Blend, do you want ‘old timers’ to leave thier community? What do you think of neighborhood complaints against you and other bars? Are they legit? Or are they crazy like your supporters suggest? Please elaborate.
I would love to open up a business on Vernon, but after reading all of these comments from the last few days, I’m not sure I like everyone’s tone (from both sides). There does seem to be a lot of hate, with the occasional person with a legitimate point. Obviously the people posting on this blog are all residents of LIC. We face one another everyday, don’t you want to live in a neighborhood where it’s an actual community to meet new interesting people and enjoy food, drink, life, laughter? I’m not sure what my point is, but LIC has the potential to be an amazing neighborhood, but we all need to get along and listen to one another.
I 100% support Blend in getting their beer/wine license, this town needs some variety, that’s what NY is all about. Why is everyone so uptight? Having a glass or 2 or wine with dinner will hardly bring out the “partying type.” It’s just another way for the people of Blend to make the $ they deserve, and for the patrons to enjoy their food with some wine.
#213 it’s fine to beleive that will be true. But it’s up to Blend to make that case. The question isn’t what it should or could possibly be. The question is “how” will Blend make sure that the atmosphere of respectful co-existence exists if they are granted a license.
There have been some negative precedents set on thier block that rightly spooked the community board.
Yup, it would be good to hear from Blend, if they choose to comment, on how they feel or what they are doing about being the ones to fix the problems left on their doorstep by existing bars on that block.
What bars have been such a problem? You’re talking like their have been riots or something. I have gone to all of the bars and restaurants on that block and have never had a problem. I’ve always enjoyed myself with friends.
I think Blend would be really ill-advised to respond in any detail to anonymous posts on a blog. Its not the right forum.
216:
Posting 214 says, ” There have been some negative precedents set on thier block…”
How do you derive “riots” from that? That may be what it takes to get your attention.
But regular complaints about yelling, puking, lewdness, peeing in the streets, etc are enough to get the attention of the community board.
Swinging the conversation to extremes is a terrific diversionary tactic, but not that productive. Let’s stay focused.
I’d be more concerned about the anti-noise crowd catching wind of this discussion logging in and posting here as opposed to Blend employees. No doubt word has gotten out about the ground swell of support for Blend and damage control is in full effect. Notice a change in the tone of the more recent posts? Demanding answers of Blend, chastising for falling to compromise, citing examples of previous victories, etc.
You should be nervous. I’m willing to bet that there are more people who want Blend to serve alcohol than don’t, so its only a matter of time before your voices are drowned out.
I have live on Vernon for the past 8 years and welcome the new businesses. For the record I have never witnessed yelling, puking, lewdness, peeing in the streets. This is pure fiction created by the work of a small group with some ax to grind against the owners of this business. I will do what I can to support them.
I wrote an e-mail to CB2, Eric Gioia and Cathy Nolan showing my support for Blend’s license. Hope, more people do the same. Click or cut and paste link below for CB2 contact info.
http://www.queenswest.com/neighborhood/discussion/869709001/conversation_view?b_start:int=0
Is this the guy?
He recorded the patrons and played it back over the fence. Loud. A few nights after the neighbor’s protest, however, he got a call from the Police Department informing him that he could be charged with criminal eavesdropping if he continued to record conversations from next door.
For their part, the owners of Lounge 47 say they are just as frustrated with the neighbor as he was with them. According to Min Chen, one of three partners, there was ample evidence that the neighbors were overreacting.
“We have four people who live above the bar,” Ms. Chen said. “We have people who live to the north and the south of the yard and none of them complain. They are patrons here, which I think is the best form of acknowledgment. If they hated us and they thought we were loud and noisy, they wouldn’t come and patronize us.”
The backyard garden, it is closed to customers at 10 on weeknights and at midnight on Friday and Saturday. The noise, Ms. Chen said, does not continue into the late night. As it stands, though, the fight over the noise probably will.
next time post the whole article……. unless you want to mislead people
guess everyone must be out drinking
#186, I do agree with you that the neighbor is charming. My point precisely, he is cunningly charming.
As for reading the NY Times from a year ago, I did, and I believe that article was terribly one sided. They only printed the neighbor’s side of things. I wonder who he knows at the Times.
Nontheless, do you really believe that a charming person installs billboards on their roof, hoses people with water, records others conversations and much more which I will not go into on here because people may think I’m making them up.
Yes 186, I do believe the man is dangerous. He does not charm me, and fortunately his charms are beginning to wear on others that once thought as you.
now he controls the New York Times? this guys is amazing!
This is missing from what was posted about Lounge 47-
“96 noise complaints have been made against Lounge 47 since 2003, but the police have not cited the restaurant for any noise violations.”
“To Bill Brasky!”
223 the link to the entire article was posted for all to see. Anyone who cares to read the full article can. Honestly its not that flattering.
227 would you care to guess how many of those 97 complaints were filed by the charming neighbors during the downtime they had between hosing down Blend patrons and illegally taping their conversations? I wish he tried something like that on me. I’d press charges and sue him so quickly it would solve Blend’s problem permanently. After recieving thier house in settlement of the legal judgement I’d open a nighclub in it.
I know Bill Brasky!!!
Blend should be happy with all this support, there should never be an empty table. I hope you all put your money up.
“I once saw him scissor-kick Angela Lansbury.”
#220 I’ve lived on Vernon 30+ years. You must have sound proof windows. I hear conversations on Vernon that should not be repeated.
234 did you tape them to be replayed later?
#229 — sounds like a pretty solid grounds for a lawsuit — being wet and recorded — i’m sure you’ll have no problem raking in the millions. i bet you could take down Girls Gone Wild the same way — if only you could still fit into that tube top!
#226 Actually he made many more that 9 complants that year. However, Lounge 47 was not cited because the police found no reason to cite them. Further, i’m sure even the police are wary of the charming neighbor As well as the fire department which he has also called, and the building department, and the mayor’s office, and city counsel, and his grandmother.
And no, I did not think he controls NY Times and I did not say that.
Now who is taking the conversation extremes. Kind of sounds like hanging around the neighbor too long #226?
Has anyone mentioned that the real reason for this is because the neighbor changed the structure of his house so that his bedroom in the middle of what was his back yard?
That’s right. most of those buildings have the kitchens over their back yard. That’s where his kitchen was originally. Then he made an extention and planted his bedroom right in the middle of his yard.
Thats what this is really about. F___ the rest of the world. The neighbor’s bedroom is there and so the rest of the world can’t use their garden or yard.
oops, sorry #237 was suppose to read “many more that 97 complaints”
As I passed McReillys the other night there was quite a crowd outside, smoking and chatting.
I was wondering how often complaints are made about them.
234 – No, of course not. However, I did hear lots of things that many, many of those people would not have wanted me to know.
liQcity commenters, please do not out people using their full names unless you are responding to someone who’s released their name in their own comment. The neighbor(s) have not identified themselves by name and posting negative commentary about them is against liQcity policy. Rather than delete this important discussion, we’ve removed all references to the named neighbor. Please refrain from anything that leans in the direction of slander towards any community person. Thanks.
Bill Brasky?
Fast & Delicious is back!
Ummmm, of course I will abide by the rules of this site, however, the “neighbors” didn’t seemed to mind their name in the NY Times, or letting people see him glare down from his roof, etc. etc.
Weak… I agree with #245. Methinks Bill Brasky reacted in the way he normally does and complained to the webmaster.
#245 I knew that point would come up. It’s more about preserving liQcity as a community blog than protecting anyone’s identity. And giving an interview is different than having anonymous people bash you publicly on a website read by your local community. LIC is very much a Small Town in many ways. Which has its pluses and minuses. As we all know.
#238 has interesting logic. I would guess he/she is all pro-big-development but not if a small home owner uses legal means to extend his house. (It’s not in the middle of the backyard btw, there are rules that limit the length).
This is the same point regarding noise and liquor licensing. There are legal processes and each of us has a right to use them. But instead the preference here seems to be character assassination.
LIQ did you get a complaint?
No complaints were filed about this thread. We are simply enforcing the sole, proclaimed editorial policy.
#248, I am well aware that there are rules and regulations regarding your extention, and I never suggested the extention was illegal.
Further, I am equally familiar with liq. lic. 500 ft law.
Let me amend my previous statement:
“You built an extention and planted your bedroom ALMOST in the middle of your back yard, which is (and was when you built it) smack in the middle of two buildings with storefronts and backyards. ”
I hope that is satisfactory to you.
As for the legal process, what part of it allows you hose people or record private conversations?
This is not about character assassination, rather it is about abuse of the legal system.
Just thought I would mention, I ate at Tuk Tuk the other night…they only have a beer and liquor license, which is all that Blend wants, and nobody was drinking out of control, just enjoying a glass with dinner. I would imagine that it will be the same way at Blend, just a restaurant that wants to be able to serve some nice wine with their menu…What’s the big deal.? Talk about the oppositions to Blend blowing things out of proportion. You guys need to lighten up already!
252, but some (note I didn’t say all) of the folks in favor of Blend’s license also wrote in grandiose terms of shipping out the old-timers and transforming LIC into their exclusive playground. They almost depicted Bland as the first step in some sinister master plan to take over the ‘hood. It’s that kind of language that got my back up, not the banal talk of a small restuarnt being able to sell a bottle of beer to diners, which I completely support.
Lets all focus at what is at question here. There have been ridiculous arguments made on both sides of the issue (starting to sound like the democratic primaries). The only basic question should be, has Blend demonstrated to be a restaurant or has it used its establishment in other ways that wouldn’t warrant them getting their liq lic? From what I know they have proved to be a restaurant and nothing else. Therefore, they should be given their license and left alone unless they abuse their right to sale wine and beer by converting their establishment into a club or a bar.
I believe this would solve both parties’ arguments and allow a small business to prosper in our great neighborhood.
I agree #254. We should leave it at that!
253 – I don’t think most people have the attitude of shipping out the old-timers. I think people reacted to some old-timers acting as unreasonable roadblocks to new changes and businesses that most people would like in this neighborhood.
Yes, 254, we should leave it at that. But with more than 250 comments on the thread, it obviously isn’t. If anything, this discussion exposed a rift of opinions in the neighborhood about the kind of place they want LIC to be. LIC seems a fractured place of warring suspicious clans, like a Beirut of NYC, and not really a cohesive neighborhood at all.
#257 welcome to every city, hood and town in the world. If you have a group that is made up of more than, lets say, 5 people than you will have opposing views.
I agree with #253. I don’t think anyone wants the “old-timers” to shape up or ship out, I just feel like some of us wish that the people who have inhabited LIC for a long time would be more open to new business and commerce coming in and making this an exciting neighborhood. I’m not sure where all of the hostility is coming from. But obviously it’s a problem, because this feed has been going on for days.
Well, many of the old-timers object to the goldrush atmosphere in the neighborhood that has helped kick out their long-time friends and inject greed into the mix, brought unbelievable disruption and commotion to their lives from the endless construction that promises to go on for decades still, and introduce a big question mark about whether their time is coming up too. There are the slights from many of the younger crowd who treat the area like a playground. Then there’s the threat that services they need, like the senior center, could close soon and make way for more condos — and where is the outcry about this? Then there’s the sense of the city and developers doing nothing to improve the street conditions, mass transit, and other important elements of a neighborhood to make their lives tolerable. “Exciting”? Yes, I suppose it is. Just don’t expect everyone to be jumping for joy like you because a Latin fusion restaurant gets a beer license.
I feel for you #260, but I think you are making a huge generalization that “the younger crowd treat the area like a playground.” That is just silly and naive. I am in my late 20′s, I work my ass off everyday to afford what little bit of apartment I can have. I do not live in one of those condos, in fact I agree that it is disturbing the # of condos that are flying up everyday on every corner. But the fact is, you can cry about it all you want, but this neighborhood is changing, like every neighborhood in NY, and I think it is for the better. And with the number of people moving here, we really need the commerce to keep up.
And the only reason I think they deserve their beer/wine license is that they have proved to the neighborhood that they are a restaurant, unlike the lies being spread about it being a nightclub. The owners and employees deserve to make the money they are missing out on by not having a beer/wine license. Something like that can boost their sales 40% or more.
Here is the quote from Joe Conley’s response to my e-mail in Blend’s defense – “Hunters Point/Long Island City is an emerging community and many people are concerned and complained about the negative quality of life issues that have come with new development. Although you expressed “there is lack of local establishments”, I think many of your neighbors would disagree and would suggest there are many fine restaurants that sever alcohol in Hunters Point/Long Island City.”
I don’t believe it represents the opinion of majority people on this thread or in LIC in general. I believe we need to show-up in the next meeting of the community board and have our opinion heard.
Next meeting will be on May 29th.
Question for 260 – what is your solution? Don’t develop the LIC waterfront and nearby areas and leave it as is? Leave the abandoned factories and older modest buildings and don’t built new luxury condos? That is not going to happen. This is a waterfront location minutes from midtown Manhattan. In a leading global city like New York, to expect a location like this to stay sleepy and quiet is almost selfish. If you have been renting in the area for years, how can anyone sit there and expect it not to change and feel entitled to be able to pay low rents forever?
It’s time foe Joe Conley to go then, if that was his response. Anyone know how long he’s been at the job? Is his position an electable one or is it by the mayor’s appointment?
If that is Joe’s response, he needs to go. Clearly he has never set foot in LIC. Again I issue the challenge to anyone please list the resturants on Vernon that suggest there is an oversaturation of resturants here.
It’s 260 here replying to 263. Who said LIC should be sleepy and quiet? It never was in my lifetime. Someone asked why I thought the oldtimers were feeling the way they do. I gave my opinion. Please don’t try to set up a false dichotomy that you’re either with us or against us. It’s not that simple. Also, why do you assume only low-rent paying, narrow-minded, grumps are against the mayhem in LIC right now? False on all counts.
I think people in NYC have been inured to have extremely low expectations for what should happen when their neighborhoods gentrify. “Deal with it” is not good enough for some people. LIC is chaotic and increasingly crowded, while very little improvements to infrastructure have accompanied the growth. It can be tough to deal with at times, waiting for the moment when the shovels are laid to rest and we have achieved the place we all want. People in Cuba are still waiting for their revolution to bear fruit. Maybe LIC will beat them to the finish line.
In the meantime, there are the lost nights sleep, the exhaustion from the constant pounding, the confusion, the sadness in seeing your old friends leave, the fracturing of community, the disgust of seeing landlords and buyers scramble for money and running up prices to unimaginable levels, the mania of prospectors spreading their bullshit all over the place. Sure, LIC might be the place everyone hopes for. But it sure is exacting a cost.
This has nothing to do with Blend . Derivatives of this argument have been passed back and forth for over a decade. Blend is the poster child for the anti-development sentiment runs very deep here. Maybe anti-development is the wrong lable. Perhaps anti-change is better… Back in the ‘90’s this group called the Hunters Point Coalition tried to fight the development of Citylights. They were complaining about many of the things that are being rehashed here now – loss of views, construction noise, dust, transportation overcrowding, loss of views, not enough parks, size and density and loss of views. The list goes on and on. Basically, they were happy with things the way that they were. They even put forward their own plan which was basically continuing the same 2-3 story townhouses to the waterfront. This plan was never feasible as no developer could make a profit with such low density given the high cost of remediation and infrastructure. In desperation they even said that no one would ever move into Citylights and that it would stand vacant for years to come. Anyway, long story short, they obviously lost and were obviously wrong. While many of the new residents have arrived with no preconceptions, I don’t think the old-timers ever got over it. I could be considered an old-timer as I have been here for more than 10 years, but the real old-timers would reject me. This was their little undiscovered slice of Queens and we are all ruining it. As a result I think we are forever scorned in their eyes. It’s sad really, but I won’t feel sorry for those that refuse to change with the times.
I think people like you are spreading far enough “bullshit” #266. You are speaking like it is the end of the world. Yes, there is a lot of building going on everywhere, and it is somewhat annoying, but it’s going to happen anyways, so why whine about it, when the real situation is whether or not a restaurant can get their wine/beer license. I would hate to be a small business owner in this area, if I had to deal with all of this gripe from your kind. Obviously there is no middle road for either side, which is just sad, because I wanted to live in a community where I can meet people and enjoy life.
And Joe Conley needs to revise his statement of “saturation of bars and restaurants” because that is simply not the case.
Thank you #267, it’s nice to hear some actual facts about this neighborhood from someone who has been here to witness all of the change. I wish there were more people like you, that can see the good in change and progress.
Well 266 still hasn’t answered the question – what is your proposed alternative? You take a negative view toward “construction” and “more condos.” You want “improvements to infrastructure.” Can you please be more specific, because so far you have done nothing but knee-jerk complaining.
Hey #268, why does Blend have some inalienable right to a liquor license where they are? If they had opened two blocks away, on 5th street or even on Jackson they would not have broken the 500 foot rule and wouldn’t be having these problems. I think the fact that they didn’t do their research doesn’t mean that they should automatically be granted a license. There are tons of places in LIC that could use another restaurant.
#271, for the millionth time the 500ft rule does not apply to an establishment that is only serving beer and wine.
they don’t want a liquor license, they want a beer/wine license, that’s totally different. I’m not going to sit here and pretend like I know all of the laws, but I’m pretty sure that is different. And maybe that was the only space available that met their needs as a restaurant.
#154 put is best “The 500 feet law has been in effect for a while now, except that it was never (or seldom) enforced, which is what restaurants/bars take into consideration before opening. Yes, there is always the chance that one might not get a liquor license, but chances were slim, till this fight on THIS BLOCK. Had Blend opened up on the next block, next to McReilly’s, this would never have happened! This is only because they opened up next to one particularly antagonistic neighbor.”
Please don’t make this thread about the old and the new again. Is every decision going to be based on the voters age? It has nothing to do with age or how long you’ve lived in LIC.
Further, the community board is suppose to go with what the people want. There were more people opposed to blend getting a liq. lic. Conley voted accordingly. Personally, I believe that Conley thinks the “neighbor” is the bigger nuisance to LIC. Nontheless, Blend had poor representation and the neighbors were better organized.
#260 is right. Let the board know how you feel. Call a meeting here in LIC and invite the board. That’s what the neighbor did. I’m sure you have heard that THE SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE OIL”
With the warm weather and the opening of a certain backyard garden, I’m quite certain that the neighbors wheel is in full SQUEAL.
#274, I don’t think anyone is basing this on age other than #260 “There are the slights from many of the younger crowd who treat the area like a playground. ” Which is not the reality at all, and I think it is that exact mentality that is corrupting this neighborhood. I have never seen anyone treat the area as a playground. You are not giving the younger generation enough credit by making such bold statements! Besides I feel old vs. new does not mean age or even length of time living here, it’s referring to the mentality of the whole situation. Some people have the view that they want things the way they used to be, where as others are excited to see what is up and coming. Either way, change is here whether we like it or not, so lets just all get along and stop fighting about such petty things and enjoy this community we’ve all chosen to live in. No one’s forcing anyone to live here, it is a choice.
And from what I’m reading on this blog, obviously “the people” are not being represented at all, and I hope all of these people in support of Blend and other small businesses flourishing participate in more of these board meetings.
hey #271 Tounesol and Domaine both serve alcohol and they are within 500 ft. of one another. So your argument can go right out the window. Obviously that law is not one that is enforced too frequently. And once again they are trying to get a beer/wine license not a liquor license, it’s totally different!
It’s me again, 260 and 266. I give up. You’re all right, and I’m completely wrong. I am hereby thrilled to death with every single change in LIC. Build a million more condos — no, make that 2 million. The more the merrier! I must have been suffering a bout of early dementia when I thought that perhaps young people, especially at the sparsely attended gatherings at PS 1 and WTB, have absolutely never treated the neighborhood like a playground. Evidently, I’ll also need to bone up on NYC’s new role as a “global city” that needs to constantly re-invent itself. There’s no stopping progress after all! Maybe I’ll start by renewing my subscription to the Harvard Business Review to better understand that the kinds of changes we’re seeing in LIC are inevitable and I should happily embrace them. There, I feel better already! Screw my old friends who got displaced from their apartments — they were old pain in the ass farts anyway! The first round of mojitos with my new friends at Blend is on me!
Now thats the spirt #277. Iknew you would come around. :)
This old vs. new argument is getting old. I have lived here since 2001 and I have met “old timers” that are friendly and welcom the change and new people. I am sure there are some “old timers ” that resent the change but it is not all of them. A good example of old timers that seem to like the change is the owner of the army/ navy store. She took it upon herself to collect signatures to have the Green Market come to the neighborhood. Thanks to her and all the new and old timers we have a market that we should all show our support for. I am also sure that there are many old timers that do not mind the apprication of their properties. Some of them will be able to reap great fruits from their propeties, as they should. I am sure many of these property owners were laughed at when they bought their homes 20 to 30 years ago. I know people thought I was nuts when I bought my apartment in 2003 and now I know I did the right thing.
Yikes – This is truly starting to go way off base. Let us go back to the beginning. Many people (myself included) went to that first meeting with CB2 at Cassino already having had our minds filled with the dread of a “noisy Latino nightclub” already instilled in our minds with the propaganda spread by the neighbor and his cohorts. To make matters worse, the Blend owner mentioned that he had been a “club promoter” in Manhattan. Well, you can imagine how that went over with the crowd!
They did not get their license. Months went by, and they continued working on the interior. Then one day, photos of the interior appeared on a blog, and I thought “this is a restaurant – not a night club”.
They opened quietly and have received mostly favorable reviews as to the quality of the food.
Now all they want is to be able to serve wine/beer with the food. The 500 foot law does not apply to wine/beer.
If they keep reasonable hours both on the interior and in their garden, I believe they can co-exist quite nicely in the neighborhood.
For god’s sake CB2 let them have their license – you know it can be revoked if they turn the place into something else!
#280 – well said. At least give them a shot.
Well said #280. Can everyone just leave it at that??
word#280. now lets talk about this hookah bar…
283 – That place will truly become a “nightclub” –The Butcher is open 24/7 and already hosts a rowdy crowd who openly drink and smoke up there even though it is blatantly illegal. My comment on that blog is already in – I’m #9.
#280 for president
280, if you’re the owner of Blend or an employee, you should use the first person when referring to the restaurant, not “they.”
#286 – I am 280. I am no way connected with Blend. I stated quite clearly that I am a community member who attended the first meeting concerning Blend. I also stated that I went to that meeting with negative feelings that had been instilled by the neighbor’s propaganda mill. Why don’t you read before you respond with a Smart A$$ answer.
#280 and 286…do you know when and where the next board meeting is? I’d like to go and see what it’s all about and support our local businesses like Blend. I hope other supporters do the same.
sorry #287
I’m not so sure going to one of the regular meetings is what your looking for. At those meeting you must sign in to be heard, however, the board will be hearing many matters concerning all areas that the board covers, such as Sunnyside, Woodside, parts of Maspeth, and LIC.
As I’ve said before, I think someone should organize a meeting and invite Joe Conley. I also think that someone should be Blend.
I would go if Blend organized such a meeting
Go Blend!
I just emailed Gioia, Nolan, and CB2 in support of their liquor license. If all 200+ posters on this thread would do the same, our representatives would listen. That’s their job. Remember: They work for us!
Vinson Valega
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#61 you are either a dumb shit trust fund kid or you work for Douglas Elliman – or both.
You’re a coward.
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This is distressing news. Blend is a perfectly legitimate restaurant with great food, yet they get denied a liquor license because of a disgruntled neighbor – who lives on a commercial strip, Vernon Blvd. If its quiet he seeks in our neighborhood, he should be living on one of the side streets which is zoned for residential use. The owners of Blend need to be more proactive in getting support from the community. There are plenty of us who would like to have a glass of wine with our chuletas! Bring on the petition!!