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Jul 26 2010

LIC’s Hunters Point library site in lawsuit over remediation costs

From Crains:

Plans for a 20,000-square-foot library in Long Island City, Queens, along the East River, are moving ahead in a timely fashion, despite a possible lawsuit involving who should pay for the clean-up of the site.

The state’s Queens West Development Corp. said it plans to sue Honeywell International to pay for the $5 million to $10 million clean-up of toxic waste on the three-quarter acre plot at Center Boulevard between 48th Avenue and 47th Drive. The state claims that a Honeywell predecessor firm used the site to make and store roofing materials, and says it will sue because yearlong negotiations with the company have broken down.

“The lawsuit will not impact the timeline for the library. It involves who ultimately will pay for the clean up,” said Paul Januszewski, president of Queens West Development Corp., adding that clean up is expected to be completed by next summer. “At this point we are fronting the money and we are on schedule.”

“Honeywell takes remediation of sites, for which we are responsible, very seriously,” said a Honeywell spokeswoman. “Based on the information available to us, we do not believe our predecessor company ever owned the Queens site or the business, which was closed by 1915. We have cooperated fully and found no evidence.”

Earlier this month, Steven Holl Architects was selected to design the new library. The city Department of Design and Construction will build the new facility. A groundbreaking date has not been set. The library has been 12 years in the making, said Donald Dodelson, president of Friends of the Queens Library and Cultural Center at Hunters Point.

With the coming of the huge mixed-use Hunters Point South development project, which will introduce 5,000 residential units to the neighborhood, the library is necessary for the community, he notes. Developers interested in that project are expected to respond to a request for proposal on the project by Sept. 7.

So far, $21 million has been raised from local elected officials for the project. Mr. Dodelson said there will be an effort to raise an additional $5 million to $10 million from the private sector “to make it an excellent library and cultural center instead of a boiler-plate one.” If more money is raised, the library could be as large as 40,000 square feet.

“The library project is important to the neighborhood,” said Mr. Januszewski. “There is a lot of hope that it will become a great community facility, not just a library but a meeting point for the community.”

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What a shock that this land is polluted. I find it amazing that the city is building a Library and a High School on a polluted waterfront. Imagine what else they are going to find as this projects progresses.

#1 Mike / 1 year, 6 months ago

The good news is at least they are going forward on the library no matter what. We all know the land around here is toxic… I guess the question is whose responsibility it is to pay for the cleanup.

#2 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

The bad news is CB2 is willing to give away FAR in order to get funding. We have already done that and we never got nothinin for that. The deal that was struck 8-10 years ago should have been much more specific in content.

#3 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

LIQ, when will you get the geographics straight?

#4 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

I don’t get it. Honeywell was last on that site, according to the excerpt, 95 years ago and is liable to pay for the remediation? But what about all the other polluters on the Queens West site, many of whom were operating more recently. Why didn’t they have to pay to clean up their properties? Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the state and developers pay for that work? So why are the rules different now for the library?

#5 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

What is the deal that CB2 made? How many floors is the library?

#6 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

#5, the answer to that question is exactly why the library was never built and may never be built. The developers cleaned up the other sites because there was a profit motive, so it was worth spending the $$$ to do it. When you leave things to the free market they get done efficiently and quickly. What you have here is a money losing operation funded by the govt. So you have to run around scrounging for cash and trying to sue people to pay for cleanup. If they agreed to a modest 10-15 story building with a library at the base this thing would have gotten built years ago. It will be years before this project gets off the ground if ever.

#7 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

#7, but than you would have a 15 story building blocking one of the best views in the city. The problem is that the politicians bend over backwards for companies that donate heavily to their campaigns. Then they give away concessions that benefit only one side. Let’s remember that companies are people too so the politicians don’t want to hurt their feelings.

#8 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

#7, You say “When you leave things to the free market they get done efficiently and quickly.” The BP oil spill, the wall street meltdown, these and other free market catastrophic events have devastated people’s lives, destroyed businesses, and damaged our natural resources. I’m not sure that I feel secure putting my blind faith in the free market world.

#9 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

It is also a bit ridiculous to use Queens West development as an example of the free market in action. That project was enabled by millions of dollars in public subsidies and on-site improvements as well as efforts by public agencies dedicated to seeing the project’s towers completed. It’s pretty telling (and depressing) to see how the city and state can jump through hoops to help enrich private developers, but when it comes to funding a long-promised public library or provide any other necessary services to make sure our city stays a decent place for everyone, the engines grind to a halt. That’s the legacy of NYC in recent years under the reigns of Giuliani and Bloomberg, and it’s the reason why this place is going down fast.

#10 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

Please #10, ‘this place is not going down fast,’ as you say.

And there’s 21 million for this right now. Asking for more is kind of stupid at this point. Just build it already.

#11 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

The wall street melt down has more to do with Cron-Capitalism then it does with Free-markets, so don’t even get me started on that. #10 the lack of the library has more to do with Bureaucratic inaction then it does with \profit motives\ of big business. The gov’t is broke and can barely keep the subways going let along build something. The whole reason there is even an opportunity for the library is the development that was done , along with the beautiful new park. So I don’t really know what the complaining is all about. I don’t see any other parks being build on the gov’t's dime. All their money is spent on gov’t pensions and giving bail outs to their crony buddies. The only new parks in the city are being done with partnerships with developers. Eg. Brooklyn Bridge Park and Gantry.

#12 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

12, with all due respect I don’t think you’ve thought this through all the way. First do you really think some other incarnation of so-called Cron-Capitalism would not happen without some degree of responsible regulation? History simply does not support that concept. The single goal to increase profit does not in any way guarantee a secure and healthy society.

Parks, libraries, and transportation systems were all built by government. Where I do agree with you is that they have gone into decay because they have been mismanaged and priorities have been misaligned by the corporate leaders appointed by our elected officials. But to turn these over totally to the corporate world would be a disaster because there is simply no mandate to preserve the basic human needs and rights that government is there for. Instead we would see more of what we already see – a shift in priority toward a City meant for the wealthy.

There would not have been a park or a library on the waterfront had the community not spent massive amounts of energy pushing for these things. The funny thing is that the developers at that time did not even have the foresight to grasp that these amenities would increase the value and attractiveness of the waterfront. They were only interested in maximum density and height.

#13 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

#13: With all due respect you do not know what you are talking about! Please pick up a history book! Firstly the parks, libraries, and transportation systems in NYC were NOT built by the government. Please stop by the Subway Museum. It was not until 1953 that the Subways were nationalized into the MTA, until that time there were two private companies – the BMT and IRT. The 1953 subway is pretty much the same system we have now, Since then our “great” governments have succeeded in not expanding the subway system or really even really maintained the system that they inherited.

As for the parks – Central Park was is maintained by private interests – The Central Park Conservancy, which thankful stepped in to help restore the park in the 1980′s

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_park#1980.E2.80.932000

The same is true with Prospect Park and the Prospect Park Alliance. Its private funds which are restoring the park.

Then we come to the libraries. You only need to walk into the main branch of the NY Library to see private money at work. This was created by the Carnegies’s. Again the New York Public Library is NOT a government run institution but a private one, started by the Tildens, and Astors. The same is true for the Brooklyn Public Library. Again funded and operated privately.

So please do not give me “Parks, libraries, and transportation systems were all built by government.” They were created by private enterprise and are being maintain privately. Its a stark comparison between the now government run MTA and the privately run NY Public Library.

As for regulations – it was not the profit motive that got us here, it was the gov’t pork and subsides going into housing and debt that got us here. Fannie, Freddie and interest tax right offs. Crony-Capitalism, which was the most regulated areas of the economy. More regulations! Please the most incompetent players in this mess were Fannie and Freddie and they had an entire gov’t department which was regulating them.

So please before you write know a bit of your history! Without private enterprise we would not have had the very things you claim that government built!

#14 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

14, there’s no reason to be obnoxious in your comments. Do me a favor, live a day in your life where zero is provided to you by government and then report back. The argument that only free enterprise will save us simply makes no sense and it is definitely not the overriding founding principle of our nation. And please before you tell others to read up on history, read what the majority of experts have to say about the meltdown. To me it sounds as if you are parroting the talk show pundits. Whatever. If that’s really what you believe, I’m just thankful I’m not you.

#15 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

All extremes are bad. Too much regulation chocks off growth too little creates an unstable country where only the wealthy have a say. We just need to keep a balance and make sure everybody is doing their job right.

#16 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

Guys this is an LIC blog. Why are you having political philosophical arguments?

#17 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

17, I’m neither of these guys, but I think the argument is directly related to what’s happening in LIC right now with the library. We have a lot of people in this city who resent the role of the public sector and services provided in every civil society. In this climate and with the growing influence they have, I think hell will freeze over before any of us see that library on the waterfront.

#18 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

#18. The article says that this won’t affect the timeline of the library, just who will pay for the clean-up.

#19 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

Where are this week’s event listings? No new postings?

#20 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

#18, they have been saying that for 10 years.

People confuse free market economy with lack of regulations. Thats not what it is. any capitalist is in favor of common sense regulations capitalist does not = anarchist. Its just an acknowledgement that private enterprise is most efficient allocator of resources.

#21 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

Government has its share of the blame for the financial meltdown, economic downturn, and the severity of the BP oil spill. Congress’ meddling with FNMA and FHLMC, irresponsible budgets, borrowing and deficits, and catering to environmentalists by banning nuclear power and shallow water drilling forcing firms to have to drill in more difficult areas.

#22 22 / 1 year, 6 months ago

With government building it, I expect something very ugly. Steven Holl’s works are boxy, boring and ugly.

#23 23 / 1 year, 6 months ago

We are instead fed vomit and vulgarity from ego-centric architects claiming to be sensitive to the history, context, and texture of the neighborhood.

#24 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

It’s amazing to me that no one here knows the history of the LIC waterfront. Maybe because none of you were born and raised here or had you’re parents and families raised here and all of you fell for the Bloomberg / Pataki lies about it.

Look up the word ‘brownfield’, read all you can about it, educate yourself of it try and track down the Con Ed documents (if you indeed can now), research the medical documents on it and then try and see if you can sell your million dollar condo now.

#25 Anonymous / 1 year, 6 months ago

. The article says that this won’t affect the timeline of the lic policy, just who will pay for the clean-up

#26 licpolicy / 1 year, 5 months ago

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