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	<title>Comments on: The many villages of Long Island City:   Hunters Point breakdown</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.liqcity.com/neighborhood/the-many-villages-of-long-island-city-hunters-point-breakdown#comment-6999</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From someone who was born and raised here, these maps are geared to real estate marketing and are NOT historically correct. Long Island City encompasses the zips of 11101, 11102, 11103, 11104, 11105 &#038; 11106. This is how the Federal Government has it recorded and this is how the Post Office has it recorded. Each zip is considered a "town", either Astoria, Sunnyside,  Long Island City, etc. So Long Island City has TWO historical meanings, 11101 through 11106 AS  WELL AS just 11101 ONLY. I know this confuses people who were not raised here but this is the way the government has always had it.

To make matters even more confusing, for someone who lives in 11105, you can have mail as Astoria or you can have mail as L.I.C., since each lot of land is recorded as L.I.C. on deeds in 11105 and to make matters EVEN MORE confusing, the Post Office is also designated as Woolsey for 11105 so you could have mail addressed as Woolsey, NY as well and it will reach you.

The city contracted out the job of updating mailing lists in Queens to a sub contractor  2 years ago and they subsequently FORGOT to add the hyphen between the first 2 numbers and the last 2 numbers of each building's correct address, for instance 31-31 51st Street is now 3131 51st Street. This is incorrect and has caused much confusion for legal papers, deeds, birth certificates, wedding licenses, credit cards, etc. I actually brought this up to the IRS and they agreed that it was incorrect  since Queens County is designated with addresses ONLY with hyphens in them as far as legal documents are concerned and our local council people should have corrected this by now but try getting that done! It is beyond me why this was done in the first place and nobody has corrected this in 2 years. This only has lead to more confusion over Queens historic neighborhoods, their boundaries and each person's correct mailing addresses.

These fictitious neigborhoods are not based in fact. They are only geared for the pathetic  bloggers that think they are fooling everyone on Queenswest.com and Curbed.com into thinking they don't actually work for Douglas-Elliman.

The New York City Economic Development Corporation is a real estate LOBBYIST that is paying off all of the local corrupt politicians so they can chase more middle-class OUT OF New York and put MORE homeless on the street and destroy the quality of life here even more than they already have.

If you fall for any of this crap, then you deserve to pay $2,500 a month in rent to look at someone's stucco wall out your back window, that is, if you indeed have a back window.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From someone who was born and raised here, these maps are geared to real estate marketing and are NOT historically correct. Long Island City encompasses the zips of 11101, 11102, 11103, 11104, 11105 &#038; 11106. This is how the Federal Government has it recorded and this is how the Post Office has it recorded. Each zip is considered a &#8220;town&#8221;, either Astoria, Sunnyside,  Long Island City, etc. So Long Island City has TWO historical meanings, 11101 through 11106 AS  WELL AS just 11101 ONLY. I know this confuses people who were not raised here but this is the way the government has always had it.</p>
<p>To make matters even more confusing, for someone who lives in 11105, you can have mail as Astoria or you can have mail as L.I.C., since each lot of land is recorded as L.I.C. on deeds in 11105 and to make matters EVEN MORE confusing, the Post Office is also designated as Woolsey for 11105 so you could have mail addressed as Woolsey, NY as well and it will reach you.</p>
<p>The city contracted out the job of updating mailing lists in Queens to a sub contractor  2 years ago and they subsequently FORGOT to add the hyphen between the first 2 numbers and the last 2 numbers of each building&#8217;s correct address, for instance 31-31 51st Street is now 3131 51st Street. This is incorrect and has caused much confusion for legal papers, deeds, birth certificates, wedding licenses, credit cards, etc. I actually brought this up to the IRS and they agreed that it was incorrect  since Queens County is designated with addresses ONLY with hyphens in them as far as legal documents are concerned and our local council people should have corrected this by now but try getting that done! It is beyond me why this was done in the first place and nobody has corrected this in 2 years. This only has lead to more confusion over Queens historic neighborhoods, their boundaries and each person&#8217;s correct mailing addresses.</p>
<p>These fictitious neigborhoods are not based in fact. They are only geared for the pathetic  bloggers that think they are fooling everyone on Queenswest.com and Curbed.com into thinking they don&#8217;t actually work for Douglas-Elliman.</p>
<p>The New York City Economic Development Corporation is a real estate LOBBYIST that is paying off all of the local corrupt politicians so they can chase more middle-class OUT OF New York and put MORE homeless on the street and destroy the quality of life here even more than they already have.</p>
<p>If you fall for any of this crap, then you deserve to pay $2,500 a month in rent to look at someone&#8217;s stucco wall out your back window, that is, if you indeed have a back window.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Baard</title>
		<link>http://www.liqcity.com/neighborhood/the-many-villages-of-long-island-city-hunters-point-breakdown#comment-6998</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Baard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no place on Earth called "LIC Core." I live in that newly-ill-designated yellow zone, and now I feel like I might have to sleep in a lead-lined bunny suit.

While neighborhoods evolve, this map is quite forced. Dutch Kills, already separated from its namesake waterway by landfill, reaches down to Queens Plaza. As a matter of fact, the hardworking president of Dutch Kills Civic Association doesn't live in Dutch Kills according to this map.

Hunters Point -- the very point! -- isn't included in the neighborhood of Hunters Point. Queens West is a housing development in Hunters Point, not a new neighborhood. If anything, Queens West residents need a sense of belonging and ubiety that flows from history and the charm that attends it.

The Queensbridge Houses are in Ravenswood, the traditional shoreline neighborhood name.

And what are the pinkish zones then??? A few people do live there too and their neighborhoods have names.

Astoria and Sunnyside are part of LIC. And Blissville rocks.

This is a developer's map. It might be a useful tool for them to use for their processes, but in no way should this be mistaken for a map of the neighborhoods of LIC.

Erik Baard

And by the way, come kayaking at Anable Basin/Anable Cove and Hallets Cove!

&lt;a href="http://www.licboathouse.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.licboathouse.org&lt;/a&gt;






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no place on Earth called &#8220;LIC Core.&#8221; I live in that newly-ill-designated yellow zone, and now I feel like I might have to sleep in a lead-lined bunny suit.</p>
<p>While neighborhoods evolve, this map is quite forced. Dutch Kills, already separated from its namesake waterway by landfill, reaches down to Queens Plaza. As a matter of fact, the hardworking president of Dutch Kills Civic Association doesn&#8217;t live in Dutch Kills according to this map.</p>
<p>Hunters Point &#8212; the very point! &#8212; isn&#8217;t included in the neighborhood of Hunters Point. Queens West is a housing development in Hunters Point, not a new neighborhood. If anything, Queens West residents need a sense of belonging and ubiety that flows from history and the charm that attends it.</p>
<p>The Queensbridge Houses are in Ravenswood, the traditional shoreline neighborhood name.</p>
<p>And what are the pinkish zones then??? A few people do live there too and their neighborhoods have names.</p>
<p>Astoria and Sunnyside are part of LIC. And Blissville rocks.</p>
<p>This is a developer&#8217;s map. It might be a useful tool for them to use for their processes, but in no way should this be mistaken for a map of the neighborhoods of LIC.</p>
<p>Erik Baard</p>
<p>And by the way, come kayaking at Anable Basin/Anable Cove and Hallets Cove!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.licboathouse.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.licboathouse.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 05:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LIC included Astoria historically, but is now technically the areas o the south (above) and to the east of Astoria. This map is clearly for people leasing condos. Hence "Queens West" with no mention of the state park there, which new residents treat like their yard and let their dogs crap in. Did you hear about the new Silvercup Studios project that's going to build three skyscrapin towers where the old power plant presently is on Vernon south of the Queensborough bridge? crazy changes yet to come..
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIC included Astoria historically, but is now technically the areas o the south (above) and to the east of Astoria. This map is clearly for people leasing condos. Hence &#8220;Queens West&#8221; with no mention of the state park there, which new residents treat like their yard and let their dogs crap in. Did you hear about the new Silvercup Studios project that&#8217;s going to build three skyscrapin towers where the old power plant presently is on Vernon south of the Queensborough bridge? crazy changes yet to come..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at who is putting out the map.  These are their designated names for the area and how they are zoned.  This is what the developers actually call the golden triangle.    It's about the money folks.  Not the history.

Anable Canal (at the end of 45th road)
Built in 1868 by Henry Anable son-in-law developer of Dr. E. Nott of Hunter's Point. During construction, a large mastodon bone was found and put on display in a local store window.

Diane
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at who is putting out the map.  These are their designated names for the area and how they are zoned.  This is what the developers actually call the golden triangle.    It&#8217;s about the money folks.  Not the history.</p>
<p>Anable Canal (at the end of 45th road)<br />
Built in 1868 by Henry Anable son-in-law developer of Dr. E. Nott of Hunter&#8217;s Point. During construction, a large mastodon bone was found and put on display in a local store window.</p>
<p>Diane</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they are just using the names as shorthand to differentiate between various different zoning districts.  I don't think anyone is claiming these are the definite names of the areas for any other purpose.

And I think it is Anable, not Anabel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they are just using the names as shorthand to differentiate between various different zoning districts.  I don&#8217;t think anyone is claiming these are the definite names of the areas for any other purpose.</p>
<p>And I think it is Anable, not Anabel.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1 is correct - The entire area outlined in red is "Hunters Point" and the other names are neighborhoods within "Hunters Point".
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 is correct - The entire area outlined in red is &#8220;Hunters Point&#8221; and the other names are neighborhoods within &#8220;Hunters Point&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is LIC CORE?  I have never heard of that, and the name sucks.  Court Square!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is LIC CORE?  I have never heard of that, and the name sucks.  Court Square!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their map is wrong.  Hunters Point is the whole thing, including QW, Court Sq and Vernon/Jackson.  It's annoying that the gov't agencies (corporations?) put this out with very little actual info about the neighborhood.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their map is wrong.  Hunters Point is the whole thing, including QW, Court Sq and Vernon/Jackson.  It&#8217;s annoying that the gov&#8217;t agencies (corporations?) put this out with very little actual info about the neighborhood.</p>
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