Train-tormented Borden Ave residents receive response from LIRR

Good job! Are the noise levels acceptable now or is more work needed to remediate the issue?

The noise isn’t all that bad. It’s just a hum. I mean, we all bought places around there, knowing of this train fact. I bought it since I found the rumble to be acceptable. We can’t expect LIRR to close down the track just because some newcomers to the neighborhood can’t stand the noise which was ALREADY present.

Short of putting a lid over the damn thing, the LIRR yard is always going to present at least some problems. When Hunters Point South is developed, it will cut off that area from the rest of the neighborhood.

3, is a broker.

6, I meant that the LIRR, even if it were totally silent and devoid of trains, will act like a barrier that blocks the surrounding neighborhood to the east, including Vernon Blvd. and Jackson Ave. I think that this will make portions of HPS, especially those buildings near the Newtown Creek, feel like enclaves. The only easy access to the southernmost parts of the HPS will be from 2nd Street. You can’t get to 5th Street or Vernon Blvd. easily (or at all) without walking across the tracks. Some sections of HPS will be pretty long walks to the shops and restaurants on Vernon and Jackson.

#7 , did it occur that there may be shops and resturants down there?

They told you that South view was protected? Hunters Point South does encompass two of those lower buildings as sites – and even though it may not be for a long time – your view is indeed going to change. Googles Hunters Point South

@#12, I think South views are an eyesore…one has to look past the ugly LIRR tracks and dumping ground to get the distant view you are talking about (and the three bridges appear more like three dots) but hey, if you live there and if you like it, that’s fine. As #11 said, the Hunters Point South development will block your views. What will be left for your viewing pleasure will be the tunnel ventilation towers and some water with no significant landmark manhattan views. But granted, you will get lots of sun, noise and pollution from the idling engines. Back to the context of this post, I do agree that it looks like the developer and condo board is being socially conscious and proactive, a good albeit rare sign these days. MTA is listening, which is half the battle won!

This is what i was talking about months ago…it was going to be one hack of along walk to the 7 train, and especially late at night…

Nobody will buy these places so might as well face the fact unless you build a bridge over the tracks and put in a moving people track like at airports

This is a disaster waiting to happen…and stop thinking LUXURY and make it cheap section 8 or workforce housing…

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You can’t get to 5th Street or Vernon Blvd. easily (or at all) without walking across the tracks. Some sections of HPS will be pretty long walks to the shops and restaurants on Vernon and Jackson.

13, eyesore? Those are just typical urban views in NYC, and I don’t see how they are really that much different from plenty of other views in parts of Manhattan. And on a high floor with sunlight all day streaming in all day long, it’s easily better than many places in the city.

I swear, why do half of you people even bother moving to New York? All you do is bitch and complain about the place and set about to change it into a Friends TV set. It’s really pretty irritating.

The content of this article and the fact that the complaint regarding noise was lodged proves that the issue is legitimate. Looks like there are some residents commenting here that noise is a non-issue or that it’s acceptable. Then why did the residents complain to the MTA to begin with??? Since when did rail yards and garages become typical urban views in NYC??? Residents are becoming so defensive for obvious reasons but the purpose here is to discuss the reality so let’s stop pretending. My 2 cents…MTA reacting to the complaints is a great stride and Hunters Point South development will certainly clean up the current views and establish a better neighborhood. The more the neighborhood becomes residential, the larger will be the voice to improve the noise issue further and other issues such as this…and that’s a good thing!

kim, what you said is ridiculous. The noise WAS an issue. The residents had discussions and correspondence with the LIRR. The LIRR then took steps to substantially reduce the noise. NOW, the noise has been reduced so significantly that it is no longer annoying or a problem for the residents.

What is so hard to understand?

Like what #18 had to say!

Hi Everyone, I am moving to borden avenue next month, next to hunters point building. I am aware of this noise, however, I am not sure how early in the morning the trains come? I am going to sign the contract tomorrow or so (8th March, 11). I would appreciate if some one can answer me precisely. Thanks.