Hunters Point Condos
Jun 3 2008

Ciampa rental building sidles up against View 59, Queensboro Plaza

Ciampa building and View 59, Queens Plaza, Dutch Kills, Long Island City

View 59 and the Ciampa rental building, Dutch Kills, LIC

Well the quiet saga of development in Dutch Kills marches on. The Ciampa rental building, which has been in the works for quite some time, is bringing View 59 some new neighbors. Info on this rental building is hard to find, but we expect to see some listings soon. If anyone comes across them, feel free to send them our way.

Most of the press lately about Dutch Kills has covered the rezoning fiasco and subsequent land grab by hoteliers. The Ciampa building, though a new development in Dutch Kills is at least a residential development and along with View 59 and the Crescent Club, might at least help spur some more amenities to the Queensboro Plaza area. Or at the very least…maybe the neighboring strip club will turn into a Starbucks. Fat chance.

Incidentally, liQcity is on vacation and out of the country for the next two weeks. We will still be bringing you updates during this time, but more than ever we are relying on the growing number of LIC tipsters to support the flow of information.

Some light reading on Dutch Kills:

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Why do some developers insist on using that beige/ yellowish brick on buildings. It is so institutional and cheap looking.

#1 Anonymous / 5 months, 3 weeks ago

ugh. the ciampa building is ugly.

#2 Anonymous / 5 months, 3 weeks ago

Who is buying or renting in this area?

#3 Anonymous / 5 months, 3 weeks ago

Ugly ugly ugly.

#4 Anonymous / 5 months, 3 weeks ago

The glass building has a much better view of the subway than the brick building.

#5 Anonymous / 5 months, 3 weeks ago

I was pretty close to placing a bid on Crescent Club because it was just darn cheap compared to much of LIC… but my now wife wasn’t feeling it. Now that I think about it… it does have a long ways of becoming something worth calling home.

#6 Jac / 5 months, 3 weeks ago

Should have bought in Citylights

#7 Anonymous / 5 months, 3 weeks ago

Hummm… right… Citylights. Nice building.

#8 Jac / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

I heard the two bedrooms in the Ciampa building are extremely small - in the 700 sq. ft. range. EXTERIOR IS SO UGLY - what a horrible color scheme!

#9 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Its official. City Lights residents are the biggest asses on the internet.

#10 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

I highly agree with #10.

Its cheap looking probably because the developer has a budget. Because its going to be a rental building they would rather invest $$ on the interior space and whatever amenities it may have.

#11 queensboro / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

#11, That is not a valid excuss for such an ugly exterior. They could have just changed the brick color and it would have looked much better. However, it also lacks any architectural character and that has to do more with a lack of taste than money.

#12 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

What’s wrong with Citylights - why is there scaffolding all around it?

#13 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Why is Citylights considered better than any other buildings in the neighborhood? As a non-tower person, I couldn’t even tell you which one is which. Why always such a high opinion of themselves? All of them seem pretty interchangeable to the layman.

#14 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Hey, everyone, I’m no fan of the big ugly condo buildings myself. But I find it really boring to read the constant stream of City”slights” in the posts. Honestly, who the hell cares? It makes coming to Liqcity a dull experience. I much prefer the lively and informative neighborhood debates on this site, and that’s been lacking in the past several days.

So here’s my recommendation: go to Queenswest.com if you are itching to slam CL and leave this site for the rest of us who don’t give a crap.

#15 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

#15 - Citylights folks are pretty desparte these days sending notes to Curbed trying to convince people that their maintenance costs are actually low and hijacking threads on Liqcity critisizing other buildings just as they went on an on with the viral attack on Arris starting rumors about hookers that don’t exist there for months on end. I have no desire to go to Queenswest.com aka Citylights.com. I just wish that these guys would stop with their antics and giving LIC such a bad image.

#16 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

no. 16, like I said: BORING.

#17 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

It’s probably like 4 people.

I think it’s weird there’s a feud between condo buildings. It’s like 8th grade. The preppies vs. the jocks vs. the nerds (if the CUNY grad housing is ever built). Meanwhile, the rest of us don’t even know the names of any of your buildings nor do we care to. Live like a star, kids.

Also I don’t understand how bashing other buildings in their neighborhood helps their property values (if that is their main concern in life)… doesn’t it just make LIC as a gain a worse reputation among real-estate dorks/investors/whatever and the general public (their own building included?). Most outsiders already think this neighborhood is lame as it is, they don’t need to help.

#18 Brandon / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Brandon, you must really think the neighborhood is lame which is why you are posting on an LIC blog

#19 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Come again? Eh? I live here.

#20 Brandon / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

The word lame is for hipsters.

#21 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Where is the user logon and comment moderation. I eagerly await it so that I can stop reading the same person responding to his own posts.

#22 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

is it possible to have any sort of conversation (on any topic) on this blog without it resorting to one guy talking about how much he hates hipsters? get over it already.

#23 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

#22 You mean like on Queenswest.com where Jake calls people for task when they call out his neighbors for making dumbass comments like #7 but doesn’t do shit to moderate idiots like CSK. No thanks. LIC doesn’t need another website like that. Why do you think that noone goes there any more?

#24 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

hi regency

#25 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

I was against registering for liqcity, but I’ve changed my mind. I can’t believe these a**hole CityLights lovers and haters, like 24 and 25, are spreading their obsessive rot here and ruining this site. Go away. You are extremely dull people with nothing worthwhile to say. Back in the days of old LIC — you know, that crappy neighborhood you love to hate and misrepresent so much? — you all would have had the sh*t roundly kicked out of you.

#26 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

I think they should take a walk up to Queensbridge and tell folks there that they should have bought at CityLights and see what happens.

#27 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

#26 While I agree that none of us want to hear any of this stuff, its kind of difficult to argue that there is anything that #24 has said that isn’t 100% accurate. As #10 said, its pretty well established now that CityLights folks have earned themselves the title of biggest asses on the internet. If you want to chide folks you’ve got to go to the heart of the problem.

#28 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

#26 Yes a good ole Long Island City SLAP! - which is a beatin’ anywhere else!!

#29 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Just went to Star Tower Condos across the train tracks and their sales office is probably the nicest office I have been too. I have been looking at a lot of developments in LIC for awhile and was going to buy at Crescent Club, but now I am leaning towards Star Tower.

I like city lights area, but I rather be closer to all the transportation. I am already late everyday to work and I need to be close the subways or cabs. I figure if I want to go to the park ill just walk over every once in awhile.

#30 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

30, Citylights and much of the QW site is within 4 or 5 blocks of the subway. I’m assuming you aren’t in a wheelchair, so how much closer can you reasonably expect to get to mass transit in the city?

#31 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

No offense #31, but being within 1 block of several trains is admittedly even more convenient than 5 blocks from 1 train (plus, it’s nice to be on trains that go downtown without transfers), hence the appeal of living somewhere like Court Square or Queens Plaza, despite the lack of waterfront or upscale foodie destinations or whatever. It’s a tradeoff of course. I’m within a block of the 7, E, V, and G (plus 10-15 minutes to the N,R,W and F) meaning I can get almost anywhere in the city without transferring, which is a nice perk, especially late nights when transfers can add a ton of time when all you want to do is sleep. Yeah, you are lazy if you think walking from “Queens West” to the Vernon-Jackson 7 is a hike, but it can get even better.

#32 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

english is a second to all you ‘tards.

#33 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

#30 sounds like a broker trying to sell us on his/ her project. If they are the same group that marketed the Fusion then they love to post as condo buyers.

#34 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Stay away from Queens Plaza. It’s a dump.

#35 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

There the City Lights ‘tards go bashing another development again. Let’s face it Queens Plaza’s best days are ahead of it wheras, Queenswests’ are behind it being designated as the future low income area of LIC. That and the Viking appliances make the Star tower a better investment than “ShittyLights”, its crappy finishes and amenities, its maintenance and tax abatement problems and worst of all its residents who post all this garbage on the net about any other building (all of which are much better than CityLights).

#36 The Truth / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

You are all dumb. Viking Appliances, amenities, finishes, blah blah blah. Nobody cares. Neighborhoods are not cars, status symbols, investments, stand-ins for a phallus, etc.

#37 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

#37, You said it. No one was ever on a deathbed wishing they had a Viking stove or a granite countertop.

#38 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

#38 True but I’ll admit that if I could have a Viking stove I’d take it. I mean who’s fooling who here?

#39 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

What is a viking stove?

#40 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

When will you all learn. Citylights runs LIC. Nothing happens here unless we want it to. Queens Plaza is crap for people who are too dumb to have bought in Citylights.

#41 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

The Citi building could beat up Citylights any day.

#42 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

LIQ come back. the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

#43 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Citylights put LIC on the map and is the only luxury building in LIC. All other buildings are crap.

#44 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

My guess is that LIQ is working on the authentication software. #44, your days are numbered. You will have to go back to curbed to post your nonsense.

#45 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Actually the Hunters Point Historic District rowhouses could beat up Citylights any day.

#46 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Sounds like you are jealous that didn’t purcahse at Citylights. We run the neighborhood

#47 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Am I the only one that gets that number 47 is just stirring?

#48 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Sounds like a whole lot of “stirring” is going on! You know, “while the cat’s away - the mouse will play” Oh please liqcity - come home soon and put a stop to this nonsense. Methinks the “mouse” could just be regency up to his old hi-jinks!

#49 anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

Methinks its Jake and his gang of rejects continuing to make fools of themselves

#50 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

That one other website doesn’t exist anymore, dudes.

#51 Anonymous / 5 months, 2 weeks ago

+1

#52 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

#49, I agree. This nonsensical “debate” about the merits of LIC buildings/neighborhoods reads like the work of one individual trying to foist the battle in his/her own head into our consciousness. Give it a rest, who ever you are; no-one else really cares, other than the fact that we’re tired of reading your nonsense.

#53 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

#48 we get it, its just not funny or original. If you look at the time stamps you can see that its one person responding to his own posts. Its actually sad.

#54 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

Sorry to veer off the Citylights topic but what does everyone have against the Queens Plaza area? I feel like Queens Plaza has it’s pro’s and it’s better days are not too far ahead (there are several developments on the rise, if not completed, in that area).

#55 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

Queens Plaza is on the N, R, W, F, E, V, 7 and sometimes G, so accessibility options are definitely a plus. Plus, once you are off the actual Plaza/Northern Blvd the side streets are nice and quiet. Bar options are pretty limited to strip clubs, though, unfortunately, nor are there many restaurants or a grocery store. It’s nice if you like a isolated, industrial area, and there are a few art lofts/spaces still around there. North of there up in Dutch Kills has a really nice mixed industrial/residential neighborhood vibe… kinda a gradual transition into Astoria as industrial gives way to housing the further north you go.

#56 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

#53 and 54 are bitter Arris renters - enjoy the hookers or suckers who bought at Queens Plaza. You are all jealous that you don’t live in Citylights and can’t enjoy the same view that we do. Citylights owns LIC. It is time for you to accept it.

#57 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

LIC pwns Citylights.

#58 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

Why do they keep making buildings that look like giant kitchen appliances. Its so sad. The stupid thing is fugly.

#59 mconnors / 5 months, 1 week ago

#44 Citylights….Luxury??

#60 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

LOL Citylights owns LICity? What a joke. You can’t even use your terraces for the next two years and couldn’t use them last summer either - YOUR BOARD IS CRAZY.

#61 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

I hope the next Al Qaeda attack involves planes flying directly into all the condos of those carrying on this moronic “nya, nya” thread over the past several days. What a bunch of overprivileged lame asses you are. Again, you all need an old-fashioned LIC thumping.

liqcity, what gives? No fresh content in 10 days.

#62 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

At the beginningof this post which has gone so very far astray, liqcity informed us that they are out of the country on vacation for two weeks.

#63 anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

yeah, they probably wouldn’t let #62’s comment sit there for two hours otherwise.

#64 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

I want to see a Queensbridge vs. QueensWest battle royale. Let’s see who owns LIC.

#65 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

65, what kind of weapons would the QueensWest crowd bring to the rumble? Oxo Good Grip vegetable peelers?

#66 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

#65 Too funny. But you are right. Queensbridge is likely the only place that City Lights is considered a luxury building in comparison too. As said earlier, Jake and his gang over at City Lights have proven once again that they are the biggest asses on the internet with this stuff.

#67 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

67, are you also still bummed that Goldwater didn’t win? Give it up, man. I don’t think you realize how fantastically pathetic you sound. Go ruin another blog. LIQCITY — come home!

#68 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

#68, that Goldwater comment is genius.

#69 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

nerds

#70 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

Asses is more like it. Queenswest losers go home. Depite what you think, the world does not revolve around Citilights, far from it.

#71 Anonymous / 5 months, 1 week ago

Shouldn’t LIQcity be back by now?

#72 Soon to be / 5 months, 1 week ago

i cant belive there are people out there that spend their time talking shit baout others work.

#73 Anonymous / 1 week, 6 days ago

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