The beginning of the beginning – a glimpse at Hunters Point South

Lame.

Double lame.

#5 it means queensbridge #2. Just like the original queensbridge, there is a nice ball park to have birthdays and BBQs at on the water.

#6 is an idiot. This is going to be 60% market rate, and the rest for people with incomes between $50k and $150k. Hardly Queensbridge. Look at the EDC website for more details.

Besides setting aside housing for hard-working folks on teacher, nurse, or fireman salaries, there are some other really good aspects to this project: lost of new open space, integrated street network, new infrastructure, a bikeway that runs on the entire waterfront, and a new neighborhood retail strip (2nd Street). Finally, something more inclusive is on the horizon in LIC.

#9 that and a whole lot of projects

I never put up a fake powerhouse website, but I do register and hold competing or relevant domains.

Jake

#13 confirms just how much nicer the area will be once these cranky oldtimers are out.

#17, no it is an anonymous wasteland.

Jake

I like this site, that is why I read it and post here. It is why I have posted link after link from QW to here, put them in the links section and in the FAQ about local blogs.

Jake

I like both sites. This one is more newsy and queenswest is more community oriented.

good point #23, also the childish remarks like “my building is better than yours” just got too old. sad really, it had some characters.

It has been a pleasure being written about on another real estate blog by another set of anonymous posters.

When will I ever learn.

Oh, and you can look it up:
http://whois.domaintools.com/powerhouselic.com

Jake

Is there anything wrong with having two good LIC sites?

Queens West is still a good site, I still check there frequently for news, but lately I find LIQ to be more enjoyable. Several reasons. The new website at QW is a mess. It’s impossible to find what you are looking for and to see what is new. Don’t care to go rooting around several layers of pages just to find a new post. QW is far too chummy. Very often it feels like a clubhouse of Jake’s friends with inside jokes, etc. Too restrictive – don’t post that here, why did you start a new thread for this. I can do without the reprimands. Lastly the whole Citylights vs. Arris thing that spilled over to Curbed left a bad taste in my mouth. We should be rooting for all building s in LIC instead of pitting them against each other. Jake, take this as constructive criticism.

Getting back on subject, HPS may have no affordable housing by the time its build if previous initiative like this are any indication.

The distinction between being anonymous and having a screen name is minor. It’s the content of the remarks that matter, and that’s why I like LIQcity. People are respectful on this site, even if they are anonymous.

#30 is right – QW became a hangout of Jake’s buddies, who got away with personal attacks with no reprimands. The site isn’t inclusive enough. It’s like a MySpace page for the Citylights crowd.

#32 – The problem with anonymous posting is that there is no credibility and continuity. You can make false statements and claims, run a full argument with only one person and otherwise create havoc. A user name is anonymous, but accountable which is why it is important and makes for a good discussion. Anonymous comments on blogs tend to get out of hand very quickly as you can see here and on curbed as well tons of other places.

Jake

I don’t think the conversation gets out of hand on LIQcity. Sure, there’s a few assholes, but mostly it’s good info. I think QW just needs a few technological improvements. community boards are vital to community! everything is online now so we should support it all. not make it competitive. just make it better. keep doing what yr doing QW & LIQ. Keep on keepin on….

#29 – In the 10 years of running the site, I have banned maybe 10 people, all of which were given multiple warnings about personal attacks and who just couldn’t play by the rules. I have been running online communities for over ten years and that is by no means coming down hard. Opposing views and opinions are great, personal attacks and nonsense just for the sake of it, were not and are not allowed. Not everyone is a seasoned internet vet or an anonymous poster. #30 – Sorry you find the site a mess, the redesign actually brought thing inline with each other like forums, and content that was all over the place. Most of what is new in the forums can be found on one page (http://www.queenswest.com/forums/) as there is even a listing over everything new by date. (http://www.queenswest.com/recently_modified) . Beyond that you can actually create you OWN personal favorites list navigation to highlight any content from forum, to thread and keep track of it. (http://www.queenswest.com/Members/jake/favorites-new-queenswest-com-feature). Not only that, but the instant sitewide search gives you access to all content and you subscribe (via RSS) to anything on the site from people to postings to new content. All of that is new and all of that makes it easier to find things. As for the Curbed stuff, it is a myth. There are just a few banner posters who decided to use the anonymous feature of posting on curbed (and here) to lash out at me or anything else. There is no “your building is better than my building” accept on curbed and accept by anonymous people. Any other suggestions, would be great. Jake

Queenswest is not an LIC website. It is a City Lights website and in fact has City Lights as its logo.

C’mon, Jake. Yes, you are really very skilled at rebutting everyone. Still, you can’t honestly deny that QW.com wasn’t originally a Citylights-centric website and that many outside posters sensed that it was peppered with insider gossip and knowing wink-and-nod remarks. Many of the comments about QW.com may seem overly harsh or unfair to you. But the fact that people are airing them out probably means there is some basis to their criticism and that they would like to see QW take on board the feedback.

Jake,

Arguing that QueensWest is a LIC website because it lists over a 100 local businesses is really reaching for it don’t you think?. Someone already highlighted above that QueensWest is a great place if you want to find the number to the local nail salon (which happens to be in Citylights by the way).

While you may not want to accept the criticism, reality is that your website and the folks on think that that the world revolves around City Lights. There are plenty of people coming to the neighborhood who are interested in this type of thing, which is why they moved on to sites like Liqcity along time ago.

Also this whole thing that you cultivated with your gang and the viral attacks on Arris lofts was pretty juevenile and inappropriate. LIC doesn’t need any of this. Spare us the arguments that you didn’t have anything to do with this one either.

What is with all the Jake hate? I only picked up on his site about a year ago, but I don’t see any controversial stuff there and the forums will cover whatever is brough up by the commenters? Why does this have to be a competition? QW and LIQCity are both good, each with its own feel and vibe, and I like both of them. Now, Queens Crap on the other hand, that site is an embarrassment.

Jake hate is the new Hillary Hate. :)

I love all the new websites and attention for the neighborhood I live in.

Jake

As someone who never has and likely never will never live in a swank tower, I find it hillarious and bizarre that tere are rivalries between them. It’s like dorms. Or Frats.

What’s with the QW.com bashing? Its been a terrific community site for a long time, and is a great service to the residents and the businesses. I don’t know Jake, but he’s been very fair and is in no way fostering a clique like you all claim.

Liqcity >>>>> QW.com

Nuff said. Noone goes there anymore and I agee it is for the reasons others posted there whether Jake wants to accept their critism or not.

Arris has hookers! ‘Nuff said.

I like both LIQcity and Queenswest.com. I think each provides an excellent source for information on the neighborhood.

Maybe we can all agree on one thing — the “Queens Crap” website blows. The blogger and all commenters seem to think everything sucks in Queens and that all proposed solutions suck as well.

The other websites focus more on the positives in Queens and what can be done to maintain or improve the area.

God this is boring. I was hoping for an interesting discussion about HPS.

This website is biased and extremely partial. I thought that web sites such as this are supposed to be informative not just another advertising tool for a company to use because they have a relationship with the web site owner…