Comments on: Long Island City’s long lost East River footbridge concept discovered http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered A Blog About Life and Real Estate in Long Island City, Queens, NYC Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:16:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-23220 Anonymous Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:52:20 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-23220 I'm about to move to Queens from London. LIC really interesting. I love the name \Queens Plaza\ - in Europe the word Plaza doesn't exactly conjure up the crazy mix of criss-crossing flyovers, elevated railways, piles of concrete, parked cars, wild signposts, confusing traffic lanes, junk food outlets, heavy traffic and lovely old industrial buildings. A footbridge would be great. Don't despair - look how they did the High Line - community-led. A civilised commute? I once took a ferry but it was a long walk - is it still there? I’m about to move to Queens from London. LIC really interesting. I love the name \Queens Plaza\ – in Europe the word Plaza doesn’t exactly conjure up the crazy mix of criss-crossing flyovers, elevated railways, piles of concrete, parked cars, wild signposts, confusing traffic lanes, junk food outlets, heavy traffic and lovely old industrial buildings. A footbridge would be great. Don’t despair – look how they did the High Line – community-led. A civilised commute? I once took a ferry but it was a long walk – is it still there?

]]> By: NYC Native http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21623 NYC Native Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:25:01 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21623 Wow! Just...wow! This would be absolutely incredible. And unlikely to see the light of day, unless some corporation can see a way to make a profit off of it. Does anyone know if this architect is related to THE Andre Tchelitstcheff of California wine-making fame? Wow! Just…wow! This would be absolutely incredible. And unlikely to see the light of day, unless some corporation can see a way to make a profit off of it.

Does anyone know if this architect is related to THE Andre Tchelitstcheff of California wine-making fame?

]]> By: razor http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21508 razor Fri, 23 Apr 2010 01:49:37 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21508 Here's an idea. Instead of the government getting involved, why don't we explore what it would cost to build the footbridge with private capital. Then, after four decades of environmental studies and governmental regulation, we might get the damn thing built. Who wouldn't pay a buck toll to walk across the great estuary--you know it's not really a river, right?. I bet we could turn a profit after a while. What a concept. Here’s an idea. Instead of the government getting involved, why don’t we explore what it would cost to build the footbridge with private capital. Then, after four decades of environmental studies and governmental regulation, we might get the damn thing built. Who wouldn’t pay a buck toll to walk across the great estuary–you know it’s not really a river, right?. I bet we could turn a profit after a while. What a concept.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21475 Anonymous Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:39:43 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21475 pretty far. pretty far.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21458 Anonymous Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:46:04 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21458 26, the saddest thing to me is that I believe the American public is ready to be a leader again and see our economy flourish, but no one on the national stage can or will make anything happen. Obama should have sunk all that stimulus cash into high-speed rail projects and converting moribund factories into green technology centers. If FDR were alive today, I could imagine him pushing us in that direction. Instead, we're held hostage by entrenched interests and corporate criminals, while the "hate-triots" have monopolized political discussions. The rest of us are left dreaming about simple, practical footbridge proposals that will never see the light of day. How far we've fallen. 26, the saddest thing to me is that I believe the American public is ready to be a leader again and see our economy flourish, but no one on the national stage can or will make anything happen. Obama should have sunk all that stimulus cash into high-speed rail projects and converting moribund factories into green technology centers. If FDR were alive today, I could imagine him pushing us in that direction. Instead, we’re held hostage by entrenched interests and corporate criminals, while the “hate-triots” have monopolized political discussions. The rest of us are left dreaming about simple, practical footbridge proposals that will never see the light of day. How far we’ve fallen.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21454 Anonymous Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:00:32 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21454 Ever seen in families, where the parents (one or both) was either an immigrant or worked his/her way up from very little, built a fortune, and then raised spoiled, over-privileged children who have no work ethic or ambition like their parents? That's what the NYC of today is like. A spoiled rich kid who lives off the fat of their parent's hard work. Ever seen in families, where the parents (one or both) was either an immigrant or worked his/her way up from very little, built a fortune, and then raised spoiled, over-privileged children who have no work ethic or ambition like their parents? That’s what the NYC of today is like. A spoiled rich kid who lives off the fat of their parent’s hard work.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21451 Anonymous Wed, 21 Apr 2010 03:23:26 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21451 Not to get political here, but today's politician can't see past the next elections cycle. How can you expect them to develop a vision. Its all about what short term impact can I make so that I can get my name in the paper. Agree with the previous posters. Robert Moses is sometimes a contraversial figure, but he and others in that era had a real commitment to get things done. That’s what we need today. During the depression, dams were built, highways were created, the infrastucture of the country was improved. After spending trillions on so call economic stimulus what public works projects do we have to speak of. Can anyone name anything that was noteworthy in the billions and billions that was spent? Not to get political here, but today’s politician can’t see past the next elections cycle. How can you expect them to develop a vision. Its all about what short term impact can I make so that I can get my name in the paper. Agree with the previous posters. Robert Moses is sometimes a contraversial figure, but he and others in that era had a real commitment to get things done. That’s what we need today. During the depression, dams were built, highways were created, the infrastucture of the country was improved. After spending trillions on so call economic stimulus what public works projects do we have to speak of. Can anyone name anything that was noteworthy in the billions and billions that was spent?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21450 Anonymous Wed, 21 Apr 2010 02:12:01 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21450 It is sad to think that something like this footbridge will never see the light of day in this era. The old innovation of NYC was brought about by upstarts & immigrants in a time when NYC was still mostly unbuilt the way it is now, and the government had loopholes that allowed someone like Robert Moses (never an elected official) to have so much power over NYC development. Prejudice aside, not trying to push Moses as a hero, but at least undeniably a visionary, who was not afraid of large scale infrastructure development. If you look even further back in NYC history, Dewitt Clinton's administrationv catapaulted NYC into the future by building the Erie Canal and the entire Manhattan grid system. All before 1900. The ERIE CANAL. Talk about thinking big. If they hadn't built the Erie Canal (hundreds of miles away ), supposedly NYC would not be what it once was without the diversion of ships to NYC ports. If you watch the PBS documentary called New York, you will learn all about that. Highly recommended, especially if you want to experience NYC's days of innovative glory. It is sad to think that something like this footbridge will never see the light of day in this era. The old innovation of NYC was brought about by upstarts & immigrants in a time when NYC was still mostly unbuilt the way it is now, and the government had loopholes that allowed someone like Robert Moses (never an elected official) to have so much power over NYC development. Prejudice aside, not trying to push Moses as a hero, but at least undeniably a visionary, who was not afraid of large scale infrastructure development. If you look even further back in NYC history, Dewitt Clinton’s administrationv catapaulted NYC into the future by building the Erie Canal and the entire Manhattan grid system. All before 1900. The ERIE CANAL. Talk about thinking big. If they hadn’t built the Erie Canal (hundreds of miles away ), supposedly NYC would not be what it once was without the diversion of ships to NYC ports. If you watch the PBS documentary called New York, you will learn all about that. Highly recommended, especially if you want to experience NYC’s days of innovative glory.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21449 Anonymous Wed, 21 Apr 2010 01:42:50 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21449 I agree with 22 and 23 on the state of our country as compared to the rest of the world. When was the last time we build something that was awe inspiring in scale? Oh wait, the new iPhone leaked yesterday ... and we had something to talk about. The rest of the world has been laughing at us for over a decade. But on the other hand it did not seem to learn from our mistakes. India and China is riding the same slippery slope that led us here. I agree with 22 and 23 on the state of our country as compared to the rest of the world.
When was the last time we build something that was awe inspiring in scale?
Oh wait, the new iPhone leaked yesterday … and we had something to talk about.

The rest of the world has been laughing at us for over a decade. But on the other hand it did not seem to learn from our mistakes. India and China is riding the same slippery slope that led us here.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21447 Anonymous Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:25:23 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21447 The foot bridge does not seem to cross UN property. It seems to connect with an existing road. Not sure what basis they would have for complaint. If anything security will be an issue. Some one could stand on the footbridge and fire an RPG into the UN. doesn;t meant that it should not be build though. #22, is sadly right. We were once a nation that did great things. We built skycrapers just because we could, sent men to the moon, unlocked to power of the atom, invented the automobile, put computers on the world stage. That is no longer the case. Unfortunately this is not a NYC problem its a USA problem. To me the most glaring example of this is the WTC. Close to a decade has gone by since the attacks of 9/11, and we are still staring at a hole in the ground wondering what to do. A national disgrace. If you want to see exciting and innovative projects go to China, the far east and India. The USA is now a place for mediocrity and the status quo. The foot bridge does not seem to cross UN property. It seems to connect with an existing road. Not sure what basis they would have for complaint. If anything security will be an issue. Some one could stand on the footbridge and fire an RPG into the UN. doesn;t meant that it should not be build though.

#22, is sadly right. We were once a nation that did great things. We built skycrapers just because we could, sent men to the moon, unlocked to power of the atom, invented the automobile, put computers on the world stage. That is no longer the case. Unfortunately this is not a NYC problem its a USA problem. To me the most glaring example of this is the WTC. Close to a decade has gone by since the attacks of 9/11, and we are still staring at a hole in the ground wondering what to do. A national disgrace. If you want to see exciting and innovative projects go to China, the far east and India. The USA is now a place for mediocrity and the status quo.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21446 Anonymous Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:35:25 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21446 It's so depressing to me that the same city that wouldn't take no for an answer as it built the the two tunnels and the East River bridges, not to mention the subway system, today finds unable to imagine doing anything approaching the scale of this project. We're the city of "No-Can-Do." Tell me, what exactly is so wrong with us today that we can't think big anymore? It’s so depressing to me that the same city that wouldn’t take no for an answer as it built the the two tunnels and the East River bridges, not to mention the subway system, today finds unable to imagine doing anything approaching the scale of this project. We’re the city of “No-Can-Do.” Tell me, what exactly is so wrong with us today that we can’t think big anymore?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21444 Anonymous Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:07:41 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21444 i'm sure it could be altered so that it does not go directly to the UN, perhaps Tudor City...anyway the point is that this is a great idea which sadly will probably never happen (maybe someday in the far future with Hunters Point South?) i’m sure it could be altered so that it does not go directly to the UN, perhaps Tudor City…anyway the point is that this is a great idea which sadly will probably never happen (maybe someday in the far future with Hunters Point South?)

]]> By: brownbag http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21443 brownbag Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:00:41 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21443 Considering the UN doesn't even allow the East Side bike path to cross their property, I doubt they'd allow a foot bridge. Considering the UN doesn’t even allow the East Side bike path to cross their property, I doubt they’d allow a foot bridge.

]]> By: #1 http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21442 #1 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:51:43 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21442 #5, By having the UN fund it, it would have abetter chance of actually getting built. Why would they do it? Because NYC is their host city and they receive plenty of city perks this is good way of giving back. #5, By having the UN fund it, it would have abetter chance of actually getting built. Why would they do it? Because NYC is their host city and they receive plenty of city perks this is good way of giving back.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21440 Anonymous Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:10:16 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21440 To walk across the QB takes a little over 25 minutes, walking relatively quickly. This indeed would be great. Probably a huge security issue for the Un though. To walk across the QB takes a little over 25 minutes, walking relatively quickly.

This indeed would be great. Probably a huge security issue for the Un though.

]]> By: MannyFresh http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21439 MannyFresh Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:33:51 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21439 I don't care who funds it, just build it now! I don’t care who funds it, just build it now!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21438 Anonymous Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:41:46 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21438 This makes way too much sense to have it done. I wonder how long an average person would take to walk across this bridge. I would think 10 min tops. This makes way too much sense to have it done. I wonder how long an average person would take to walk across this bridge. I would think 10 min tops.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21437 Anonymous Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:39:38 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21437 Build it and they will come!!! Build it and they will come!!!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21436 Anonymous Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:33:27 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21436 this idea is too good to be true. it would be amazing... anyone from city council or city hall watching this space? :) this idea is too good to be true. it would be amazing…

anyone from city council or city hall watching this space? :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21435 Anonymous Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:28:16 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21435 Usually great ideas like this start out on a napkin. NYC just likes to wipe its nose with good ideas, instead of developing them. Usually great ideas like this start out on a napkin. NYC just likes to wipe its nose with good ideas, instead of developing them.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21434 Anonymous Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:55:04 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21434 London did something similar. Their Millennium Footbridge is a pedestrian-only steel suspension bridge crossing the Thames River. This would be double the lenght, but the Millennium Footbridge only cost $30M to construct. Now granted that's in London not in NY where organized crime family known as unions tend to operate, but its not so crazy financially. London did something similar. Their Millennium Footbridge is a pedestrian-only steel suspension bridge crossing the Thames River. This would be double the lenght, but the Millennium Footbridge only cost $30M to construct. Now granted that’s in London not in NY where organized crime family known as unions tend to operate, but its not so crazy financially.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21433 Anonymous Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:45:39 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21433 On a nice day like today I would totally skip the train and walk to work to my office in midtown. Seriously how does something like this get off the drawing board and into planning. Not sure how things like this generally get started. On a nice day like today I would totally skip the train and walk to work to my office in midtown. Seriously how does something like this get off the drawing board and into planning. Not sure how things like this generally get started.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21432 Anonymous Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:26:40 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21432 The footbridge would connect vernon to G'point, and not force foot traffic across the crappy Pulaski. The footbridge would connect vernon to G’point, and not force foot traffic across the crappy Pulaski.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21430 Anonymous Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:59:14 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21430 this would be the best thing to ever happen to LIC...but i have no confidence that it would ever happen even if it makes complete sense and even if these types of solutions are much cheaper than increasing capacity on the 7 train. this would be the best thing to ever happen to LIC…but i have no confidence that it would ever happen even if it makes complete sense and even if these types of solutions are much cheaper than increasing capacity on the 7 train.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.liqcity.com/oddities/long-island-citys-long-lost-east-river-footbridge-concept-discovered/comment-page-1#comment-21429 Anonymous Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:50:27 +0000 http://www.liqcity.com/?p=17226#comment-21429 Trams need too much maintenance though and if it's really windy they can't be used. A foot bridge needs zero maintenance. Trams need too much maintenance though and if it’s really windy they can’t be used. A foot bridge needs zero maintenance.

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