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May 13 2010

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It would be an absolute disgrace if the senior center in the neighborhood has to be closed for Herr Bloomberg’s budget. What makes it even sadder is that most I suspect most people in the neighborhood care more about the fate of dog runs and pending liquor licenses than the area’s elderly.

#1 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

the population is exploding in lic, and the city wants to close firehouses. makes no sense, if anything we should be getting more protection

#2 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

2, that’s what you get when you have a billionaire Republican mayor.

#3 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

No that is what you get when you have a huge deficit.

#4 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

And an almost economic Great Depression!

#5 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

Baloney. Taxation is at historic lows in this country. There is plenty of money being made in this city, but no one has the political courage to make the changes necessary to shake it loose from those who are quite comfortable and could be paying more to preserve the services we need to keep the city viable.

#6 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

#6 keep your hand out of my wallet. So quick to tax, why not reduce fraud and waste before reaching into people pockets to fund boondoggle? We should be reducing the size of government – not looking for ways to expand it. The reason there is no money in the city is the outragous cost of healthcare followed by the enormous cost of the infrstructure of the city. Dept. of this dept of that… If you want more taxes start practicing what you preach and send in your donation.

#7 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

boondoggle…great word

did you get that from the nytimes yesterday or is that in your everyday vocabulary?

#8 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

Its actually in my regular vocabulary. Its a pretty common word and it is used quite frequently in everyday conversation.

Here’s a fun fact: The term arose in the 1930′s when as part of the New Deal $3 million was spent on recreational activities for the jobless. One example of which was a craft class where the production of “boon doggles” (gadgets made with cloth or leather) was taught.

If there was ever a term that sums up government spending this is it.

#9 #7 / 1 year, 9 months ago

Smaller government translates to less money for schools and health care, while maintaining military spending and bailing out either badly or fraudulently managed big businesses.

The voting populace becomes dumber and fatter. Our resources are expended protecting overseas corporate investments. The value of the average person’s holdings is diminished.

Oh wait, this is just a bad dream. It couldn’t happen here.

#10 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

Essentially, based on the comments or lack thereof above, it seems that no one especially gives a damn whether the senior center in the neighborhood closes. This self-centered attitude is exactly what I hate so much about the New LIC. I enjoy many of the changes — the park, the life in underused properties, the new businesses. What I sorely miss is our lost community, when we all looked out for one another. Today, unless an issue involves something these entitled babies value, they couldn’t give a flying F for anyone else. What a disgrace.

#11 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

#11: and this kind of attitude where you call everyone who moved here in the last 5 years an “entitled baby” is why I can’t wait until Old LIC disappears into oblivion. I am certainly not a baby and have never been entitled to anything. I have had to work very hard all my life for everything I have and achieved, and was born to parents who did the same (and started working in their early teens). And I have no idea why you can presume to know who I am and who my neighbors are, just because we’re not part of your “old community”.

#12 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

I think the point is that the newer wave of people seem not to care so much about the community spaces, and more about their condos and dogs. I have to agree with #11 and say there is definitely an attitude of apathy from the ‘newcomers’.

And don’t act like there isn’t a new LIC and an old one. If you read last week’s times article about LIC, it was very clear that we’re being gentrified. Which means new yuppies. Sorry but that’s what you are, and just because you work hard doesn’t mean you’re not entitled. In fact, your statement was quite entitled. You expect to have your bars and restaurants but don’t care if the neighborhood’s elderly lose their dedicated services. Whether you work hard or not is irrelevant.

#13 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

Oh, and the ‘Old LIC’ is never going to disappear into oblivion. That’s what you don’t understand, and that’s the colonizing attitude that I find offensive.

#14 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

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#15 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

The other thing that always bugs me about the new vs. old feud is I’m sure those posting on behalf of “Old LIC” have only been around a few years. My family has been here since the 50s but I would not presume to speak for old LIC.

#16 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

I’m not trying to stir up trouble, as I said I am happy with many of the changes in LIC. I am genuinely upset that there hasn’t been an outpouring of support on behalf of preserving the senior center, like there is for dog runs, concrete museum walls, and mediocre restaurants looking for liquor licenses. The senior center has long been an extremely valuable resource for LIC’s seniors, many of whom are struggling to make ends meet while the condos bloom. I find it painfully ironic that as the neighborhood gets richer, keeping the center alive seems to be slipping away.

How else can you explain the “apathy” (as 13 calls it) than to point to the influence of the newer members of the neighborhood, who generally don’t seem to extend themselves out to those who don’t share their narrow sociodemographic profiles? Why aren’t they doing anything to show their support to the seniors?

And, 16, my family has been in LIC since before the turn of the 20th century. Anyway, my attitudes have nothing to do with tenure and more to do with affinity for those looking for more than a scoop of gelato in their neighborhood.

#17 Anonymous / 1 year, 9 months ago

17, I would not view the lack of posts as apathy. I think you only get lots of posts when there are conflicting points of view. I can’t imagine there’s going to be a lot of people in favor of closing senior centers.

Rather than trying to blame things on newcomers, why not point of ways in which people can get involved to help.

#18 Anonymous / 1 year, 8 months ago

I have been in LIC for over 20 years and the new residents are no more apathetic than the old ones. In fact, many of the “old timers’ have a fortress attitude so they only care about their own piece of property. Gentrification will bring more educated and more considerate neighbors. If we are lucky, it will wear off on the old-timers.

#19 Anonymous / 1 year, 8 months ago

Please, this old timer/newcomer dichotomy is getting old. There are concerned people who have been here for ages and have helped to build and maintain a great community and there are newcomers who get into the swing of it and love being a part of life here and contribute a lot of good.

There have always been and always will be those that stand on the side-lines and either bitch about everything but do nothing or worse turn a blind eye while still being pissed off at everything. It has nothing to do with the amount of time here.

Along with the positive traits, each generation has some negative tendencies. Some of the older folks are maybe unaccepting of change. Some of the younger folks don’t have a clue about the value of a a cohesive community.

#20 Anonymous / 1 year, 8 months ago

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